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Democratizing visual communication is arguably useful, for instance helping people to create diagrams that illustrate a concept they wish to convey. This is con
by bulletsvshumans 5mo ago
Democratizing visual communication is arguably useful, for instance helping people to create diagrams that illustrate a concept they wish to convey. This is contingent on the tech working sufficiently well that the visuals are more effective at communication than the text that went into producing them though.
- galleywest200 5mo agoCan these people not just create a diagram with their own hands? Literally a pencil and paper. I am at the point where I would prefer a poorly human drawn diagram with terrible handwriting over AI slop.
- rafael-lua 5mo agoIt is not the making of the diagram that is the problem, but often the fact I have no idea how to put it visually. AI is awesome at this. Now, does that justify the harm? Not for me, but this issue is way out of my league.
- davebren 5mo agoThe point of a diagram is that you have something in your head to turn into the diagram. There's no point if you can't do it yourself and the image generator is coming up with it for you.
- rafael-lua 5mo agoI disagree. Diagrams are a type of visual communication, and not everyone is good at translating things to visual. I open an excalidraw with clear concepts in my head, but nothing comes out of it. I try C4 or flow diagrams, and I spend an excessive amount of time refactoring them to end up mediocre anyway. Not just me, I know MANY developers that are amazing at explaining things but are mind-blocked when drawing simple circles and arrows. Helping us navigate things we aren't good at has been one of the main selling points of AI.
- davebren 5mo agoLearn how to draw simple circles and arrows, this is the epitome of learned helplessness.
- izucken 5mo agoBut then he wouldn't have a justification for AI companies to rob people! And you are suggesting robbing himself of this justification!
- breezybottom 5mo agoIt's not translation if it's completely AI generated to begin with. Instead of addressing your mental deficits (which sound severe), you're offloading it and making the problem worse.
- wiseowise 5mo agoYou have lack of practice and OCD if you’re constantly refactoring but “always end up mediocre”.
- zbrozek 5mo agoI do that. My slide decks these days are hand scribbled.
- twobitshifter 5mo agoIf you scroll far enough down the linked page, you’ll see they’re knocking off poor handwriting too!
- tdb7893 5mo agoIt's always felt like way overhyping to call something "democratization" when it's something I could do as a middle schooler in 2005. It takes some skill to do very well but it's not like basic diagram creation isn't something people already could do for basically free (I create figures for my job all the time now and chatGPT is more expensive than tools I use for design). Commissioning high quality diagrams from a designer is expensive and I guess it's much cheaper now to essentially commission something but idk, "democratization" still feels weird for just undercutting humans on price.
- pesus 5mo agoYeah, it's not "democratization", people were just too lazy to do it before. It only takes some basic effort and a little bit of time to be able to create decent versions of those things.
- NewsaHackO 5mo agoYou are making a mistake a lot of people make when talking about genAI helping others do work. I get that to you it is very easy to do, but there are other groups of people that are not able to do it. What you are saying is like a hobbyist carpenter saying that making a bedside table would take him one weekend to do, so he doesn't think it is okay for tables to be made via assembly line instead of hiring a carpenter to do it.
- tdb7893 5mo agoI think you're missing my point, which is pretty narrow here. "Democratization" is fairly grand term implying that the general public now have access to something freeing they didn't before (it generally invokes some idea of liberation, as the term often is used to note a transition from an authoritarian to a democratic government). I don't think there has ever been a particularly high barrier to making good diagrams, in my experience it's an easy to learn skill both in time and money, so it feels like it's cheapening the term "democratization". Maybe I'm being a bit sensitive though because of how the world is right now with people sometimes literally fighting for democracy. Normally I am pretty lax with semantics but I've had some people really rub me the wrong way when overhyping AI.
- lossyalgo 5mo agoMy workplace does this for EVERYTHING. And they are always immediately obviously AI slop, both because we all know they wouldn't ever pay an actual artist to create graphics, but also because the people creating the graphics have no sense of style and let it generate the most generic shit possible with zero creativity. It's definitely not helpful. It's just annoying and disgusting and a waste of resources IMO. But hey at least Powerpoint presentations have AI slop instead of stuff taken from Google Images!?
- kibibu 5mo agoI'm not convinced that "arguably useful" is sufficient to offset its much more heavily-used application as a casually-available disinformation engine. I mean, the cat's out of the bag; but the cat stinks.
- wiseowise 5mo agoDemocratizing visual communication? Kim Jong Goon has taken away your pen and paper?