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Not really a fact, more of a bad anecdote. Currently HI gas is just $0.17 cheaper than CA, and I see many CA gas stations at $5.09, just like HI. A decent chunk

Not really a fact, more of a bad anecdote. Currently HI gas is just $0.17 cheaper than CA, and I see many CA gas stations at $5.09, just like HI. A decent chunk of that comes from strict CA low pollution refining, you know, to help you breath better... https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/ https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/

xp84 6mo ago
5.09 - lol, ok maybe in the rural parts of the state or something. In L.A. it's $5.50 at the very cheapest stations (read: go out of your way and maybe waste 10 minutes waiting, then wait in line to pay cash) and even Bakersfield is about $5.25 minimum. $5.60-5.75 is what I see on most normal stations. The refining regulations are so great that they have succeeded in forcing nearly every refinery here to close now, so I guess gas prices can just go asymptotic, since California only allows this special unicorn gas, and I doubt any of these oil companies are going to open a new refinery in Arizona to make this special formulation, when they're closing the refineries here that used to make it. Maybe Sacramento can buy the closed refineries and restart them at great taxpayer expense and create our version of state-owned oil companies, except instead of printing money they'll be printing debt.
- reducesuffering 6mo ago
  Nope, wrong again. In the middle of urban Bay Area. Again, with all those refining regulations, the data still says $0.17 off Hawaii.
  - xp84 6mo ago
    I don't know where you're getting your "data" from or if there's some bias making you not want to believe we're getting ripped off, but I can definitely provide very real data: https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/hawaii/kahului https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/hawaii/kahului Safeway 4.89 / Costco 4.75 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/san-mateo/2159 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/san-mateo/2159 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/daly-city https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/daly-city 7-Eleven 5.79 / Costco 5.39 / Chevron: 6.15 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/mission-viejo https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/mission-viejo 5.49 - 6.29 in Mission Viejo.

xp84 6mo ago

5.09 - lol, ok maybe in the rural parts of the state or something. In L.A. it's $5.50 at the very cheapest stations (read: go out of your way and maybe waste 10 minutes waiting, then wait in line to pay cash) and even Bakersfield is about $5.25 minimum. $5.60-5.75 is what I see on most normal stations. The refining regulations are so great that they have succeeded in forcing nearly every refinery here to close now, so I guess gas prices can just go asymptotic, since California only allows this special unicorn gas, and I doubt any of these oil companies are going to open a new refinery in Arizona to make this special formulation, when they're closing the refineries here that used to make it. Maybe Sacramento can buy the closed refineries and restart them at great taxpayer expense and create our version of state-owned oil companies, except instead of printing money they'll be printing debt.

reducesuffering 6mo ago
Nope, wrong again. In the middle of urban Bay Area. Again, with all those refining regulations, the data still says $0.17 off Hawaii.
- xp84 6mo ago
  I don't know where you're getting your "data" from or if there's some bias making you not want to believe we're getting ripped off, but I can definitely provide very real data: https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/hawaii/kahului https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/hawaii/kahului Safeway 4.89 / Costco 4.75 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/san-mateo/2159 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/san-mateo/2159 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/daly-city https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/daly-city 7-Eleven 5.79 / Costco 5.39 / Chevron: 6.15 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/mission-viejo https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/mission-viejo 5.49 - 6.29 in Mission Viejo.