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Because if you’re a vscode user up until a couple days ago you could hammer Opus 4.6 all day every day and pay nowhere close to the Claude Max plan. Many people

Because if you’re a vscode user up until a couple days ago you could hammer Opus 4.6 all day every day and pay nowhere close to the Claude Max plan. Many people exploited this and the subsidy is closing.

hx8 5mo ago
Good, I hope Microsoft lost a lot of money in the deal.
- ValentineC 5mo ago
  From a friend in GitHub: they've been burning so much money because of Opus.
rcleveng 5mo ago
Just use claude code directly with a pro plan instead of copilot for roughly the same cost. On wait, nevermind. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565
- selcuka 5mo ago
  > Just use claude code directly with a pro plan Usage limits are/were higher in Copilot. They also charge per prompt, not per token.
  - rcleveng 5mo ago
    Yes, I loved my $10 a month person subscription for light coding tasks, it worked great. I'd use claude code max for heavy lifting, but the $10 a month copilot plan kept me off cursor for the IDE centric things.
    - invalidSyntax 5mo ago
      Me too. Claude isn't the best option when all you do is ask "what's this error message", every 10 minutes or so.
  - krzyk 5mo ago
    Well they charge per prompt, but with usage limits it is a mix of token and prompt. If prompt multiplier is higher, tokens are also multiplied, so limit is reached sooner. It is basically a token based pricing, but you get alos a limitation of prompts (you can't just randomly ask questions to models, you have to optimize to make them do the most work for e.g. hour(s) without you replying - or ask them to use the question tool).
- versteegen 5mo ago
  The Anthropic Pro plan cost double and gave you, I don't know, a tenth the usage, depending on how efficiently you used Copilot requests, and no access to a large set of models including GPT and Gemini and free ones.
ihsw 5mo ago
Opus 4.6 is no longer available and Opus 4.7 chews through monthly limits with reckless abandon. The value-add of GH Copilot is basically gone (at least for individuals on the Pro or Pro+ plans.)
jimberlage 5mo ago
Yeah this was me. I just got a message that I hit my limit and now I am looking into what it takes to run Qwen on local hardware.
- andrewjvb 5mo ago
  Been having a ton of fun with copilot cli directed to local qwen 3.6. If you’re willing to increase the amount of specificity in your prompts then delegating from a GPT-5.4 or Opus to local qwen has been great so far.
- Aurornis 5mo ago
  A suggestion: Don't invest in any new hardware to run an LLM locally until you've tried the model for a while through OpenRouter. The Qwen models are cool, but if you're coming from Opus you will be somewhere between mildly to very disappointed depending on the complexity of your work.
  - zozbot234 5mo ago
    OpenRouter-served models are often more heavily quantized than what you can run locally, or try for yourself on generic cloud-based infrastructure.
    - Computer0 5mo ago
      I just choose a specific provider so it's not switching all the time.
243423443 5mo ago
I have to say this was how I used GitHub copilot in vscode. I Used opus 4.6 for most tasks. I am not sure I want to keep my copilot plan now.
drumttocs8 5mo ago
Exactly, it was just simply much cheaper and perfect for my usecase.

hx8 5mo ago

Good, I hope Microsoft lost a lot of money in the deal.

ValentineC 5mo ago
From a friend in GitHub: they've been burning so much money because of Opus.

rcleveng 5mo ago

Just use claude code directly with a pro plan instead of copilot for roughly the same cost. On wait, nevermind. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565

selcuka 5mo ago
> Just use claude code directly with a pro plan Usage limits are/were higher in Copilot. They also charge per prompt, not per token.
- rcleveng 5mo ago
  Yes, I loved my $10 a month person subscription for light coding tasks, it worked great. I'd use claude code max for heavy lifting, but the $10 a month copilot plan kept me off cursor for the IDE centric things.
  - invalidSyntax 5mo ago
    Me too. Claude isn't the best option when all you do is ask "what's this error message", every 10 minutes or so.
- krzyk 5mo ago
  Well they charge per prompt, but with usage limits it is a mix of token and prompt. If prompt multiplier is higher, tokens are also multiplied, so limit is reached sooner. It is basically a token based pricing, but you get alos a limitation of prompts (you can't just randomly ask questions to models, you have to optimize to make them do the most work for e.g. hour(s) without you replying - or ask them to use the question tool).
versteegen 5mo ago
The Anthropic Pro plan cost double and gave you, I don't know, a tenth the usage, depending on how efficiently you used Copilot requests, and no access to a large set of models including GPT and Gemini and free ones.

ihsw 5mo ago

Opus 4.6 is no longer available and Opus 4.7 chews through monthly limits with reckless abandon. The value-add of GH Copilot is basically gone (at least for individuals on the Pro or Pro+ plans.)

jimberlage 5mo ago

Yeah this was me. I just got a message that I hit my limit and now I am looking into what it takes to run Qwen on local hardware.

andrewjvb 5mo ago
Been having a ton of fun with copilot cli directed to local qwen 3.6. If you’re willing to increase the amount of specificity in your prompts then delegating from a GPT-5.4 or Opus to local qwen has been great so far.
Aurornis 5mo ago
A suggestion: Don't invest in any new hardware to run an LLM locally until you've tried the model for a while through OpenRouter. The Qwen models are cool, but if you're coming from Opus you will be somewhere between mildly to very disappointed depending on the complexity of your work.
- zozbot234 5mo ago
  OpenRouter-served models are often more heavily quantized than what you can run locally, or try for yourself on generic cloud-based infrastructure.
  - Computer0 5mo ago
    I just choose a specific provider so it's not switching all the time.

243423443 5mo ago

I have to say this was how I used GitHub copilot in vscode. I Used opus 4.6 for most tasks. I am not sure I want to keep my copilot plan now.

drumttocs8 5mo ago

Exactly, it was just simply much cheaper and perfect for my usecase.