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This is a risky move. I might have paid $20/month for my personal projects but the Max subscription is a bit steep. Now I'm going to learn more about local mod

by wrxd 6mo ago

This is a risky move. I might have paid $20/month for my personal projects but the Max subscription is a bit steep. Now I'm going to learn more about local models. I don't need to be as good as a frontier model. Good enough and free from all this drama is a win for me

Xunjin 6mo ago
"free of this drama" and free is great option for companies, of course most use API billing but let's not forget that there are places that budget is limited and being good enough is just perfect.
peab 6mo ago
the cursor 20$ a month plan has been working great for me. You can use most models, and unlimited use of composer 2, which is surprisingly good
- muyuu 6mo ago
  It's a volatile space. Cursor was just acquired by SpaceX, so let's see what happens.
  - rokob 6mo ago
    Wait what
    - muyuu 6mo ago
      Front page right now.
CrimsonShadow 6mo ago
Same, I'm currently unemployed and the $20 help me to initiate many small projects. The recent taxing in the token made me start testing local models on my machine. Tho, Claude works better for the front end part imo.
dgb23 6mo ago
If you are looking at open models, check out Pi, as its very extensible and comes with a sane default. Maybe even roll your own. Most harnesses (claude, codex, opencode etc.) assume that you use a cloud model. There’s no sense of optimization or finer control.
- theshrike79 6mo ago
  I've been running pi.dev + codex (GPT-5.4) for a long time for my workhorse stuff. Actually tried caveman mode yesterday and it made everything SO MUCH BETTER. GPT-5.4 has a habit of being extremely verbose to a ridiculous degree, it's like it's writing a report for a CTO or something and padding everything as much as possible to sound smart. With caveman it just gives me lists of stuff in a compact format. Perfect.
  - michaelcampbell 6mo ago
    let's be clear(er) here that you like caveman's format and output, so that's one value of "better". I've seen at least a few (n < 10, so there's that) tests on token use and for THAT value of "better" it's not much different.
    - theshrike79 6mo ago
      The token savings with caveman is completely secondary to me to be honest. What I appreciate is the terse answers it gives to me. I don't need a padded essay on what the issue is or what was fixed. Give me the bullet points.

by wrxd 6mo ago

Xunjin 6mo ago

"free of this drama" and free is great option for companies, of course most use API billing but let's not forget that there are places that budget is limited and being good enough is just perfect.

peab 6mo ago

the cursor 20$ a month plan has been working great for me. You can use most models, and unlimited use of composer 2, which is surprisingly good

muyuu 6mo ago
It's a volatile space. Cursor was just acquired by SpaceX, so let's see what happens.
- rokob 6mo ago
  Wait what
  - muyuu 6mo ago
    Front page right now.

CrimsonShadow 6mo ago

Same, I'm currently unemployed and the $20 help me to initiate many small projects. The recent taxing in the token made me start testing local models on my machine. Tho, Claude works better for the front end part imo.

dgb23 6mo ago

If you are looking at open models, check out Pi, as its very extensible and comes with a sane default. Maybe even roll your own. Most harnesses (claude, codex, opencode etc.) assume that you use a cloud model. There’s no sense of optimization or finer control.

theshrike79 6mo ago
I've been running pi.dev + codex (GPT-5.4) for a long time for my workhorse stuff. Actually tried caveman mode yesterday and it made everything SO MUCH BETTER. GPT-5.4 has a habit of being extremely verbose to a ridiculous degree, it's like it's writing a report for a CTO or something and padding everything as much as possible to sound smart. With caveman it just gives me lists of stuff in a compact format. Perfect.
- michaelcampbell 6mo ago
  let's be clear(er) here that you like caveman's format and output, so that's one value of "better". I've seen at least a few (n < 10, so there's that) tests on token use and for THAT value of "better" it's not much different.
  - theshrike79 6mo ago
    The token savings with caveman is completely secondary to me to be honest. What I appreciate is the terse answers it gives to me. I don't need a padded essay on what the issue is or what was fixed. Give me the bullet points.