> because cats are obviously conscious and that's not true for Claude I'm not sure that I agree that's true, and I think that's the crux of the debate here: ho

> because cats are obviously conscious and that's not true for Claude I'm not sure that I agree that's true, and I think that's the crux of the debate here: how do you define consciousness such that it's obvious that a cat is conscious, and why would that definition not include Claude being conscious?