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https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.06203 https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.06203 the study Instructions given from the twitter thread but are probably slop: Samsung: Menu →

https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.06203 https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.06203 the study Instructions given from the twitter thread but are probably slop: Samsung: Menu → Settings → All Settings → General & Privacy → Terms & Privacy → Turn off "Viewing Information Services" LG: Settings → General → System → Additional Settings → Turn off "Live Plus" Settings → Support → Privacy & Terms → User Agreements → Turn off "Viewing Information" Roku TVs (TCL, Hisense, Philips, Insignia, Onn, Sharp, and others): Settings → Privacy → Smart TV Experience → Turn off "Use Info from TV Inputs" Settings → Privacy → Advertising → Turn off "Personalize Ads" Sony: Settings → All Settings → Turn off "Samba Interactive TV" Vizio: Settings → All Settings → Admin & Privacy → Turn off "Viewing Data" Amazon: Settings → Preferences → Privacy Settings → Turn off "Device Usage Data", "Collect App and Over-the-Air Usage", "Interest-Based Ads"

mlindner 6mo ago
FWIW, I would not trust LG here to actually do nothing even after turning all the elements off, their GUI is especially "web"-like. Just leave it disconnected. I don't understand why people can't just get a secondary device for accessing live streaming programs. There's numerous devices you can buy that do it. TVs should not be connected to the internet. The incentive structures are just too bad against the user.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 6mo ago
  How do you know the TV will not also screenshot the HDMI input? That’s what I would do if I were looking to further milk the rubes buying my tv.
  - Larrikin 6mo ago
    The TV can take all the screenshots it wants in that scenario. It isn't connected to the Internet
  - arijun 6mo ago
    It seems like they do? That’s why gp suggested disconnecting the Wi-Fi entirely.
- luckys 6mo ago
  They'll probably start making them with sim card and modem at some point. I can picture it now on a future ebay listing: faraday cage for your tv - only 99.99!
m463 6mo ago
I thought texas sued them all because they did it even after changing settings.
- naikrovek 6mo ago
  Those preferences get turned back on after firmware updates, which is yet another reason to disconnect them entirely

mlindner 6mo ago

FWIW, I would not trust LG here to actually do nothing even after turning all the elements off, their GUI is especially "web"-like. Just leave it disconnected. I don't understand why people can't just get a secondary device for accessing live streaming programs. There's numerous devices you can buy that do it. TVs should not be connected to the internet. The incentive structures are just too bad against the user.

0cf8612b2e1e 6mo ago
How do you know the TV will not also screenshot the HDMI input? That’s what I would do if I were looking to further milk the rubes buying my tv.
- Larrikin 6mo ago
  The TV can take all the screenshots it wants in that scenario. It isn't connected to the Internet
- arijun 6mo ago
  It seems like they do? That’s why gp suggested disconnecting the Wi-Fi entirely.
luckys 6mo ago
They'll probably start making them with sim card and modem at some point. I can picture it now on a future ebay listing: faraday cage for your tv - only 99.99!

m463 6mo ago

I thought texas sued them all because they did it even after changing settings.

naikrovek 6mo ago
Those preferences get turned back on after firmware updates, which is yet another reason to disconnect them entirely