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I am to speculate that they are going to use this as an excuse to let people go without doing mass layoffs and having to pay severance. Training AI is just an e

I am to speculate that they are going to use this as an excuse to let people go without doing mass layoffs and having to pay severance. Training AI is just an excuse.

lotsofpulp 6mo ago
White collar firms with a reputation for paying well don’t cheap out on severance. It’s a cheap way to get employees to sign some stuff reducing the risk of lawsuits, plus their unemployment insurance premiums stay lower. It’s only once the business is having a cash crunch or will no longer need to hire competitive candidates that they start letting people go without severance.
- darth_avocado 6mo ago
  > White collar firms with a reputation for paying well don’t cheap out on severance Tell that to Elon Musk and Twitter employees.
  - __loam 6mo ago
    Musk saddled that company with an additional billion in debt interest payments every year so they were in a cash crunch.
    - shimman 6mo ago
      Oh is that the excuse why the billionaire couldn't afford to pay out pennies?
      - __loam 6mo ago
        I'm not defending it I'm just explaining how badly they mismanaged it lol
mgiampapa 6mo ago
Many many moons ago I refused to implement a calendar event scraping system at Meta where it would look at all of your meetings on the calendar and do "analysis". IDK what ever happened to that task, I assume it died a death of no one else being willing to do it. This was probably 2011 or so, I can only imagine it has gotten so much worse.
- VygmraMGVl 6mo ago
  It's pretty easy to scrape your own calendar events in Meta. I'm not sure about others' as I'm not a manager, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were visible as long as someone is in your report chain. (I work at Meta)
  - mgiampapa 6mo ago
    It's been a while so I don't remember the specifics, but the I think the request came from someone working at Accenture from one of the FinTech teams? At the time the proposal had both technical limitations and performance implications on top of the privacy issues. To do it right would have meant standing up a new set of client exchange endpoints and permissions that were far too permissive so the task just got ignored for a long time and I think that manager behind it went away eventually or they settled for public data inside the company. The only report chain based permissions were around distribution lists which were just some powershell scripts that walked AD every night. These also got used for security groups to gate access to some things. Be default, calendars were visible to all authenticated users unless you made them private or individual events private. The meeting tool leveraged this for example. I was working on corp email (among other things) there from 2009 to 2016, so I can't speak for now.

I am to speculate that they are going to use this as an excuse to let people go without doing mass layoffs and having to pay severance. Training AI is just an excuse.

lotsofpulp 6mo ago

White collar firms with a reputation for paying well don’t cheap out on severance. It’s a cheap way to get employees to sign some stuff reducing the risk of lawsuits, plus their unemployment insurance premiums stay lower. It’s only once the business is having a cash crunch or will no longer need to hire competitive candidates that they start letting people go without severance.

darth_avocado 6mo ago
> White collar firms with a reputation for paying well don’t cheap out on severance Tell that to Elon Musk and Twitter employees.
- __loam 6mo ago
  Musk saddled that company with an additional billion in debt interest payments every year so they were in a cash crunch.
  - shimman 6mo ago
    Oh is that the excuse why the billionaire couldn't afford to pay out pennies?
    - __loam 6mo ago
      I'm not defending it I'm just explaining how badly they mismanaged it lol

mgiampapa 6mo ago

Many many moons ago I refused to implement a calendar event scraping system at Meta where it would look at all of your meetings on the calendar and do "analysis". IDK what ever happened to that task, I assume it died a death of no one else being willing to do it. This was probably 2011 or so, I can only imagine it has gotten so much worse.

VygmraMGVl 6mo ago
It's pretty easy to scrape your own calendar events in Meta. I'm not sure about others' as I'm not a manager, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were visible as long as someone is in your report chain. (I work at Meta)
- mgiampapa 6mo ago
  It's been a while so I don't remember the specifics, but the I think the request came from someone working at Accenture from one of the FinTech teams? At the time the proposal had both technical limitations and performance implications on top of the privacy issues. To do it right would have meant standing up a new set of client exchange endpoints and permissions that were far too permissive so the task just got ignored for a long time and I think that manager behind it went away eventually or they settled for public data inside the company. The only report chain based permissions were around distribution lists which were just some powershell scripts that walked AD every night. These also got used for security groups to gate access to some things. Be default, calendars were visible to all authenticated users unless you made them private or individual events private. The meeting tool leveraged this for example. I was working on corp email (among other things) there from 2009 to 2016, so I can't speak for now.