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Anyone know much about the new top of the line Intel vs AMD CPU options? Which is more power efficient? Powerful?

• wmf 6mo ago
  Intel Core Ultra 3xx is mostly better than AMD Ryzen 3xx/4xx. This year you're better off with Intel.
• dismalaf 6mo ago
  AMD Ryzen AI 400 is built on TSMC 4nm and Panther Lake is on Intel's 18A so Intel is literally a generation ahead for this product cycle and wins hands down...
  • nottorp 6mo ago
    But is the GPU good for anything? I'm used to Intel being completely crap and AMD actually being able to run games if you can live without 8k and 400 fps. Also how's Linux support for either?
    • dismalaf 6mo ago
      Intel GPUs have never been that bad... In the past they were simply small because the expectation was they'd be paired with a dGPU. The Core series has GPUs on par with or even slightly bigger than most of the Ryzen AI series (look up benchmarks and articles).
      • nottorp 6mo ago
        > they were simply small But that's bad in my book. I'm happy with 720p on low detail once in a while if it's a laptop. What I remember is Intel GPUS being unable to do even that. If they caught up with AMD iGPUs, that's great. I don't do desktop replacement laptops, I prefer the ones I can hold in one hand, the dGPU is in my desktop.
        • dismalaf 6mo ago
          > What I remember is Intel GPUS being unable to do even that. Maybe in the days of HD graphics cards... I've got a Tiger Lake chipset and the Xe iGPU outperforms the laptop 3050 dGPU in actual games (due to having access to waaaaaay more RAM).
          • nottorp 6mo ago
            Well it's hard to erase a crap reputation. During the previous chip crisis when covid and crypto were waning I needed a new desktop. Damned if I was going to buy a discrete video card at those prices so I went AMD integrated graphics. Didn't even stop to look at Intel. (For the record said desktop has a discrete GPU now, but I bought it like 2 years after I built the desktop.)
            • dismalaf 6mo ago
              Dunno, AMD (and ATI) had a poor reputation for years and only rehabbed it when they released the Zen architecture in 2017. Even then it took a few generations to be seen as better than Intel. Intel has had a positive reputation the vast majority of the time from 1990 up to now, with only the last few years being bad.
              • nottorp 6mo ago
                > Intel has had a positive reputation For integrated GPUs? Both sides were crap until Zen. I just didn't notice Intel caught up. > from 1990 up to now For CPUs they're fortunately still playing catch up with each other. You remember when AMD released Zen, but do you remember when Intel released the Core stuff and how crap Pentium 4 / Netburst was right before that?
                • dismalaf 6mo ago
                  I'm just saying that people buy the best thing and memories are short, no one really cares what brand their CPU is...