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Yeah, if at any time Mark can ask Meta AI ‘which of my employees insulted me today’ for example, that’s wild

kridsdale1 6mo ago
I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. It had no impact of recruiters trying to win me back since then.
- gambiting 6mo ago
  In my experience at other companies recruiters and pretty much no one else has any idea that someone has been blacklisted, until you do all of your interviews and tell HR to hire that person and that's when they tell you the person is on some kind of shit list and we can't hire them. That was an awkward conversation with someone who was basically told we'll be making an offer soon.
  - balamatom 6mo ago
    Huh. What do you reckon would have happened if you'd hired them anyway?
    - computably 6mo ago
      What? Hiring is a contract between employer (company entity) and employee. No individual "you" can hire anybody except through the company's official process. If HR says "no we won't extend an offer," a lowly HM extending an offer would be clear-cut fraud.
      - jjmarr 6mo ago
        Managers usually have the authority to bind the company to an employment contract. Even if they don't, the rule of "apparent authority" often means the employee can still sue. In the USA this is mostly theoretical since HR could immediately fire the employee due to at-will employment. But in Canada, it's a much bigger issue due to labour protections. e.g. Many managers at American multinationals gave assurances over email to employees about work-from-home arrangements. Then the company does a huge RTO push. When the employee refuses, HR discovers they can't fire the employee without a hefty buyout. Best not to give assurances if you're managing a multinational team.
        gambiting 6mo ago
        >>Managers usually have the authority to bind the company to an employment contract Is that an American thing? I've been a manager for years and never heard of that happening. I didn't even know how much the people I managed were paid.
        jjmarr 6mo ago
        I believe it happens more often in Canada. Here's a case where the RTO ultimatum was ruled constructive dismissal, because the manager made a verbal agreement to amend the terms of employment. https://mathewsdinsdale.com/employers-advisor-march-2025/#:~:text=The%20Plaintiff%20had,with%20no%20issues. https://mathewsdinsdale.com/employers-advisor-march-2025/#:~...
      - balamatom 6mo ago
        I meant what would have happened - and to whom - if HR had greenlighted the offer, but others' posts pretty much clarified that for me, thanks.
  - mancerayder 6mo ago
    What is the blacklist and is it company-specific? I'd be more concerned about industry-wide blacklisting.
    - gambiting 6mo ago
      No it was company specific. Basically that person used to work for our company, years prior, in a different office in a different country. But I also had a different situation where we also decided to hire someone, only to find out that we can't because he's been let go from another company owned by our parent company, and his severance agreement said he can't work for the same group of companies for 12 months. I think he was genuinely unaware that we're part of the same group(if was a huge corporation) and it just never came up in any conversation until HR tried to put together paperwork for him.
- LightBug1 6mo ago
  Should have framed it. Good job.
- simmerup 6mo ago
  Until the day when Zuckerberg meets you, and his Ray Ban glasses profile your face and pull up that comment on your exit interview as pertinent information. His eyes glaze over and he just reads that instead in his corner vision instead of listening to you, and you get snubbed forever more
  - shermantanktop 6mo ago
    That’d be a snub to cherish.
  - seanp2k2 6mo ago
    As if you would ever be afforded an audience in the first place.
    - simmerup 6mo ago
      True, was thinking while writing that that was the most unlikely thing in the story which is wild
- BeetleB 6mo ago
  > I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. How can they legally mandate an exit interview when you resigned? Is it part of the employment contract? What would have happened if you showed them the finger and not participated?
  - OkayPhysicist 6mo ago
    They can't legally mandate an exit interview, but they sure can pay you for one.
  - seanp2k2 6mo ago
    Possibly nothing, possibly you'd get blacklisted and they'd share that with other companies in ways in which you'd never know or have any recourse https://fortune.com/2025/03/27/meta-block-list-hiring-employees/ https://fortune.com/2025/03/27/meta-block-list-hiring-employ... https://www.businessinsider.com/how-block-lists-affect-your-job-search-and-career-advancement-2025-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/how-block-lists-affect-your-... https://medium.com/@ossiana.tepfenhart/the-no-hire-list-is-real-and-this-might-be-why-youre-not-hired-ca5113218f05 https://medium.com/@ossiana.tepfenhart/the-no-hire-list-is-r... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-v...
  - zeroonetwothree 6mo ago
    Nothing happens, it’s optional. However if you want to be able to be rehired it doesn’t hurt to do it. It doesn’t take long and you don’t really have to say anything.
- storus 6mo ago
  Narcissists often want to get the ones that ran away back to properly destroy them.
zepppotemkin 6mo ago
He's already got the willing-intern-finder.md skill locked and loaded
kube-system 6mo ago
All enterprise messaging apps support exporting your DMs today, for legal compliance.

I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. It had no impact of recruiters trying to win me back since then.

gambiting 6mo ago
In my experience at other companies recruiters and pretty much no one else has any idea that someone has been blacklisted, until you do all of your interviews and tell HR to hire that person and that's when they tell you the person is on some kind of shit list and we can't hire them. That was an awkward conversation with someone who was basically told we'll be making an offer soon.
- balamatom 6mo ago
  Huh. What do you reckon would have happened if you'd hired them anyway?
  - computably 6mo ago
    What? Hiring is a contract between employer (company entity) and employee. No individual "you" can hire anybody except through the company's official process. If HR says "no we won't extend an offer," a lowly HM extending an offer would be clear-cut fraud.
    - jjmarr 6mo ago
      Managers usually have the authority to bind the company to an employment contract. Even if they don't, the rule of "apparent authority" often means the employee can still sue. In the USA this is mostly theoretical since HR could immediately fire the employee due to at-will employment. But in Canada, it's a much bigger issue due to labour protections. e.g. Many managers at American multinationals gave assurances over email to employees about work-from-home arrangements. Then the company does a huge RTO push. When the employee refuses, HR discovers they can't fire the employee without a hefty buyout. Best not to give assurances if you're managing a multinational team.
      - gambiting 6mo ago
        >>Managers usually have the authority to bind the company to an employment contract Is that an American thing? I've been a manager for years and never heard of that happening. I didn't even know how much the people I managed were paid.
        jjmarr 6mo ago
        I believe it happens more often in Canada. Here's a case where the RTO ultimatum was ruled constructive dismissal, because the manager made a verbal agreement to amend the terms of employment. https://mathewsdinsdale.com/employers-advisor-march-2025/#:~:text=The%20Plaintiff%20had,with%20no%20issues. https://mathewsdinsdale.com/employers-advisor-march-2025/#:~...
    - balamatom 6mo ago
      I meant what would have happened - and to whom - if HR had greenlighted the offer, but others' posts pretty much clarified that for me, thanks.
- mancerayder 6mo ago
  What is the blacklist and is it company-specific? I'd be more concerned about industry-wide blacklisting.
  - gambiting 6mo ago
    No it was company specific. Basically that person used to work for our company, years prior, in a different office in a different country. But I also had a different situation where we also decided to hire someone, only to find out that we can't because he's been let go from another company owned by our parent company, and his severance agreement said he can't work for the same group of companies for 12 months. I think he was genuinely unaware that we're part of the same group(if was a huge corporation) and it just never came up in any conversation until HR tried to put together paperwork for him.
LightBug1 6mo ago
Should have framed it. Good job.
simmerup 6mo ago
Until the day when Zuckerberg meets you, and his Ray Ban glasses profile your face and pull up that comment on your exit interview as pertinent information. His eyes glaze over and he just reads that instead in his corner vision instead of listening to you, and you get snubbed forever more
- shermantanktop 6mo ago
  That’d be a snub to cherish.
- seanp2k2 6mo ago
  As if you would ever be afforded an audience in the first place.
  - simmerup 6mo ago
    True, was thinking while writing that that was the most unlikely thing in the story which is wild
BeetleB 6mo ago
> I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. How can they legally mandate an exit interview when you resigned? Is it part of the employment contract? What would have happened if you showed them the finger and not participated?
- OkayPhysicist 6mo ago
  They can't legally mandate an exit interview, but they sure can pay you for one.
- seanp2k2 6mo ago
  Possibly nothing, possibly you'd get blacklisted and they'd share that with other companies in ways in which you'd never know or have any recourse https://fortune.com/2025/03/27/meta-block-list-hiring-employees/ https://fortune.com/2025/03/27/meta-block-list-hiring-employ... https://www.businessinsider.com/how-block-lists-affect-your-job-search-and-career-advancement-2025-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/how-block-lists-affect-your-... https://medium.com/@ossiana.tepfenhart/the-no-hire-list-is-real-and-this-might-be-why-youre-not-hired-ca5113218f05 https://medium.com/@ossiana.tepfenhart/the-no-hire-list-is-r... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-v...
- zeroonetwothree 6mo ago
  Nothing happens, it’s optional. However if you want to be able to be rehired it doesn’t hurt to do it. It doesn’t take long and you don’t really have to say anything.
storus 6mo ago
Narcissists often want to get the ones that ran away back to properly destroy them.

zepppotemkin 6mo ago

He's already got the willing-intern-finder.md skill locked and loaded

kube-system 6mo ago

All enterprise messaging apps support exporting your DMs today, for legal compliance.