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For context, when the article says "a list of work-related apps and websites," this includes Google properties like gmail, docs, etc, and social media websites
by loeg 6mo ago
For context, when the article says "a list of work-related apps and websites," this includes Google properties like gmail, docs, etc, and social media websites like Facebook and Instagram, with no provision for excluding personal accounts.
- tmp10423288442 6mo agoNo one intelligent should be logging into their personal accounts on their work devices in any case - it's always been the case (at least in the US) that companies can do whatever invasive scanning they want on devices they own.
- __loam 6mo agoMeta forces employees to use personal Facebook accounts at work.
- kleinsch 6mo agoThis hasn’t been true for 8+ years.
- charcircuit 6mo agoHaving both a personal and work Facebook account is against the rules and may lead to getting the account suspended.
- Rekindle8090 6mo ago[flagged]
- casualscience 6mo agoThey absolutely do, wtf are you talking about. Also people use their work accounts and laptops to read their w2 and other sensitive info.
- Archonical 6mo agoIt at least used to be true. In order to accept the job offer, you would have to make (or have) a Facebook account.
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- cma 6mo agoThe W2 is already provided by the employer, is it really sensitive for the employer to see it?
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- casualscience 6mo agoIdk, do you think it's sensitive for the employer to train an AI with it and then put that AI on Instagram for everyone to use and ask for employee SSNs?
- bradlys 6mo agoEveryone here is slightly wrong. Meta does require you to have a Facebook account. The expectation is that it is your personal fb that you use regularly. However, it doesn’t need to be. You can create a new fb account with a new gmail account and that’s fine. That’s what I did and some others do as well. That said, 90%+ of employees end up using their real personal account because the language they use makes it seem like you couldn’t do what I described.
- te_chris 6mo agoCool that they don't let others do it. I tried to make a work fb account to access the hellscape that is business manager and they blocked it. Pricks.
- dist-epoch 6mo agoYou know you are at work and monitored. You can browser personal accounts from your phone.
- dylan604 6mo agoon your phone not connected to corp wifi
- astrange 6mo agoThat doesn't matter anymore unless they have an SSL proxy. If you have ECH/ODoH anyway.
- esseph 6mo agoLots of those these days. Zacaler has a fair amount of enterprise market penetration.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 6mo agoIf anyone can fingerprint your personal device while literally inside the building, it is Facebook. You don’t even need any to do something fancy in software. Could just be correlating mobile device presence with work laptop activity. Can triangulate physical location with a handful of Bluetooth or WiFi beacons.
- mint5 6mo agoAnd Ideally not connected to company WiFi
- darth_avocado 6mo agoYeah automatically assume everything on your work computer is available for your employer to see. And everything you do on your own device when connected to their WiFi or VPN. I’m surprised this needs to be said out loud.
- Barrin92 6mo ago>You know you are at work and monitored. unless you're in a jurisdiction that has anti-surveillance workplace laws, which if you don't should probably think about before Mark Zuckerberg gets the idea to monitor to your body temperature from below the waistline
- lokar 6mo agoAt meta your personal FB account is your work account. I had to create one to get paid. It’s the same identity used in internal systems.
- loeg 6mo agoYes, but, so what? It isn't a license to train AI on employee personal information. That said -- social media websites were later removed from the "work-related" list. So there was at least some recognition it was overreach and did not match the stated justification.