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I feel like I have seen better analysis of this elsewhere. In a nutshell, it is not simply a civil war. Regional actors are involved as a proxy war: Saudi Arabi

I feel like I have seen better analysis of this elsewhere. In a nutshell, it is not simply a civil war. Regional actors are involved as a proxy war: Saudi Arabia against the UAE, for example (who are also having a proxy war in Yemen). And Egypt against Ethiopia. The wikipedia article covers some of the complexity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023%E2%80%93present)#Foreign_involvement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023%E2%80... EDIT: This is what I am thinking of: https://youtu.be/bpH37vGoRJc https://youtu.be/bpH37vGoRJc

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b450 5mo ago
There is a section of the article covering precisely this, headed "The external actors: arms to both sides"
- goodcanadian 5mo ago
  It is not covered in anywhere the same level of detail, in my opinion.
  - ResPublica 5mo ago
    I appreciate your feedback and understand your criticism. I'll be sure to add more detail in future analyses. My main goal was to draw attention to this matter.
    - nixon_why69 5mo ago
      I almost commented before realizing I hadn't RTFA and deleting my draft in shame. Having read it, how are UAE and the Saudis opposing each other in this proxy war while being nearly joined at the hip in their actual neighborhood? Your article was informative and I learned from reading it but this whole dynamic still makes zero sense to me. They don't talk? Maybe it makes zero sense to anyone.
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  - quietbritishjim 5mo ago
    I'm not familiar with this topic and it seemed clear to me. It could have been more detailed, but then do could then rest of the article, and then it would've been too long.
- throwaway173738 5mo ago
  It’s not getting much attention because the UAE is allied with the US against Iran. If you listen to their mouthpieces on the news you’re going to hear nothing but glowing praise for the US attacks on Iran and statements about the Iranian campaign against civilian targets in the UAE. I don’t think the US government has much stomach to go against the UAE. And it’s a sad commentary on what the people who control the executive and the legislative are about that they speak about Sudan not at all.
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yostrovs 5mo ago
This war is not even known about by the general public. The question is why not? I believe the actors of the war nobody hates or loves outside of Africa. Nobody knows them. If it would be Americans, Chinese, Israelis, or Russians involved, the war would be in the news.
- newspaper1 5mo ago
  “The world” is very complicit in supporting Israel’s genocide. It also has effects like stripping the rights of citizens in countries whose governments support Israel. That’s why people care.
  - raxxorraxor 5mo ago
    It isn't a genocide for that matter. I always was projection by their detractors and it is getting old really. We have attacks on synagogues all over the world and we had protests on the day after Israel got attacked. I don't like the government of Israel either, but I think the loudest critics are simply poor morons and uneducated fools at this point. Worse enough that some leaders of certain countries give into this primitive populism.
    - GJim 5mo ago
      > It isn't a genocide for that matter. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......
      - raxxorraxor 5mo ago
        Yes, it doesn't really quack at all and you cannot explain these points away. There would be peace in Gaza today if it didn't invade Israel to slaughter civilians.
        GJim 5mo ago
        The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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culi 5mo ago
FWIW I haven't seen a better more thorough analysis of the history and current state than Cogito https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqIMES53rsY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqIMES53rsY

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b450 5mo ago

There is a section of the article covering precisely this, headed "The external actors: arms to both sides"

goodcanadian 5mo ago
It is not covered in anywhere the same level of detail, in my opinion.
- ResPublica 5mo ago
  I appreciate your feedback and understand your criticism. I'll be sure to add more detail in future analyses. My main goal was to draw attention to this matter.
  - nixon_why69 5mo ago
    I almost commented before realizing I hadn't RTFA and deleting my draft in shame. Having read it, how are UAE and the Saudis opposing each other in this proxy war while being nearly joined at the hip in their actual neighborhood? Your article was informative and I learned from reading it but this whole dynamic still makes zero sense to me. They don't talk? Maybe it makes zero sense to anyone.
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    - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
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- quietbritishjim 5mo ago
  I'm not familiar with this topic and it seemed clear to me. It could have been more detailed, but then do could then rest of the article, and then it would've been too long.
throwaway173738 5mo ago
It’s not getting much attention because the UAE is allied with the US against Iran. If you listen to their mouthpieces on the news you’re going to hear nothing but glowing praise for the US attacks on Iran and statements about the Iranian campaign against civilian targets in the UAE. I don’t think the US government has much stomach to go against the UAE. And it’s a sad commentary on what the people who control the executive and the legislative are about that they speak about Sudan not at all.

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yostrovs 5mo ago

This war is not even known about by the general public. The question is why not? I believe the actors of the war nobody hates or loves outside of Africa. Nobody knows them. If it would be Americans, Chinese, Israelis, or Russians involved, the war would be in the news.

newspaper1 5mo ago
“The world” is very complicit in supporting Israel’s genocide. It also has effects like stripping the rights of citizens in countries whose governments support Israel. That’s why people care.
- raxxorraxor 5mo ago
  It isn't a genocide for that matter. I always was projection by their detractors and it is getting old really. We have attacks on synagogues all over the world and we had protests on the day after Israel got attacked. I don't like the government of Israel either, but I think the loudest critics are simply poor morons and uneducated fools at this point. Worse enough that some leaders of certain countries give into this primitive populism.
  - GJim 5mo ago
    > It isn't a genocide for that matter. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......
    - raxxorraxor 5mo ago
      Yes, it doesn't really quack at all and you cannot explain these points away. There would be peace in Gaza today if it didn't invade Israel to slaughter civilians.
      - GJim 5mo ago
        The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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culi 5mo ago

FWIW I haven't seen a better more thorough analysis of the history and current state than Cogito https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqIMES53rsY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqIMES53rsY