I do think Ternus being at Apple for 25-years (2001) is getting lost in the story. It's also the year the iPod was launched, which capitulated Apple from near

I do think Ternus being at Apple for 25-years (2001) is getting lost in the story. It's also the year the iPod was launched, which capitulated Apple from near bankruptcy a few years before to then having the cash it needed to invest in R&D on things like transitioning to Intel, creation of iPhone, etc.