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>Surely there's a number between $2800 quintillion and whatever low number actually gets awarded that would make sense. But it wasn't a low award. Are you unaw

>Surely there's a number between $2800 quintillion and whatever low number actually gets awarded that would make sense. But it wasn't a low award. Are you unaware, or are you thinking that awards above $1.4 billion is low? >The actual damages awarded here is about $64 million per plaintiff, which is a lot, but not utterly absurd. If we divided it among 1.4 billion people, it'd only be a buck each. How can it be high if it's just one dollarino per person?

wat10000 6mo ago
> But it wasn't a low award. Are you unaware, or are you thinking that awards above $1.4 billion is low? That was referring to dumping chromium. You said you've seen such judgments be tiny fractions of what was awarded against Jones. When I said maybe that means those judgments should be higher, you came up with this ridiculous $2800 quadrillion number. I'm saying, perhaps there is some reasonable number that is less than $2800 quadrillion but more than the low numbers you've seen. > If we divided it among 1.4 billion people, it'd only be a buck each. How can it be high if it's just one dollarino per person? If Jones had damaged and been sued by 1.4 billion people, and lost, then $1.4 billion would indeed be an extremely low award. But he wasn't. Again, it's about actual damages, not assessing the moral severity of the injustice against the defendant's ability to pay. The jury determined that Jones damaged these specific plantiffs to a degree equivalent to a bit under a billion dollars. You can certainly disagree with that, but "if we divided it among 1.4 billion people" doesn't make a lick of sense. If 1.4 billion people were damaged to a degree that worked out to $1/person, then it would be the correct award. Nothing to do with Jones' ability to pay or how many people it's divided among.

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>Surely there's a number between $2800 quintillion and whatever low number actually gets awarded that would make sense. But it wasn't a low award. Are you unaw

by NoMoreNicksLeft 6mo ago

wat10000 6mo ago
> But it wasn't a low award. Are you unaware, or are you thinking that awards above $1.4 billion is low? That was referring to dumping chromium. You said you've seen such judgments be tiny fractions of what was awarded against Jones. When I said maybe that means those judgments should be higher, you came up with this ridiculous $2800 quadrillion number. I'm saying, perhaps there is some reasonable number that is less than $2800 quadrillion but more than the low numbers you've seen. > If we divided it among 1.4 billion people, it'd only be a buck each. How can it be high if it's just one dollarino per person? If Jones had damaged and been sued by 1.4 billion people, and lost, then $1.4 billion would indeed be an extremely low award. But he wasn't. Again, it's about actual damages, not assessing the moral severity of the injustice against the defendant's ability to pay. The jury determined that Jones damaged these specific plantiffs to a degree equivalent to a bit under a billion dollars. You can certainly disagree with that, but "if we divided it among 1.4 billion people" doesn't make a lick of sense. If 1.4 billion people were damaged to a degree that worked out to $1/person, then it would be the correct award. Nothing to do with Jones' ability to pay or how many people it's divided among.