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I really hope they fire whoever is in charge of Liquid Glass. Whoever is leading Apple software has run out of ideas. Of all the countless things they could be

I really hope they fire whoever is in charge of Liquid Glass. Whoever is leading Apple software has run out of ideas. Of all the countless things they could be doing in software, we got the useless Liquid Glass refactor.

DANmode 6mo ago
Regardless of your opinion of its present iteration, the whole push is for their AR/VR layered UI/UX shift - not just another random redesign they threw at the wall.
- junaru 6mo ago
  VR/AR is a gimmick. Gimmicks have no place on a work tool (macOS). No one is gonna use VR/AR with a laptop. Liquid Glass is Apples Metro UI. I'm still on 18.x thats insecure by now and switching to Asahi as soon as something breaks.
  - wiseowise 6mo ago
    > VR/AR is a gimmick. Gimmicks have no place on a work tool (macOS). No one is gonna use VR/AR with a laptop. Liquid Glass is Apples Metro UI. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
    - DANmode 5mo ago
      I’ve come back to this thread a few times, and I’ve gotta say it: this is off-topic. Post a link to a recent comment of someone using glasses as a display. That’s on topic.
  - carlosjobim 6mo ago
    AR will be extremely useful for real world jobs where people deal with physical reality. As opposed to office jobs, where people deal with computers and communication. Having blueprints and 3D models and info overlayed onto what you see in the real world can be very useful for farming, construction, infrastructure, and much more. Not to mention military application.
- fauigerzigerk 6mo ago
  Yes, the idea seems to be to force app developers to support transparency so that any future iGlasses device has a good supply of apps from day one (contrary to what happened with Vision Pro). Apple used to insist that different types of devices require different UI principles. This seems all the more true for a transparent device that you wear on your face while moving around trying not to bump into physical objects. But we'll see. Perhaps the right level of transparency is situational. If you sit down with iGlasses using them as a screen you might want to reduce transparency while increasing it when you're moving around outdoors. Adjusting transparency could become as routine as adjusting audio volume.
aurareturn 6mo ago
That guy left to join Meta I believe.
- naravara 6mo ago
  Thereby raising the average talent level of both companies. A truly Pareto optimal trade.
- jack1243star 5mo ago
  That explains the recent useless UI update on Quest OS, I guess
bushbaba 6mo ago
I hated liquid glass at first, but now i've come to appreciate it. It grows on you
- theodric 6mo ago
  So does fungus. I'd prefer to avoid both.
  - goosejuice 6mo ago
    I dunno, I think fungus is pretty great. Cheese, salumi, beer, soy sauce, miso, kimchi, chocolate. Sounds like a boring life:)
    - eddieh 6mo ago
      Indeed those are pretty great, but none of those grow _on_ you.
      - goosejuice 5mo ago
        No, but there is the mycobiome.
    - theodric 5mo ago
      If you have kimchi fermenting on your body, please see a doctor.
- trueno 5mo ago
  i was getting annoyed at the state of shadcn/daisyui/the other six trillion ui patterns that have spawned since the abomination known as materialui and i actually realized liquid glass is the only meaningful step away from that we've seen in quite a long time. it's still not quite my tempo, looks downright silly in many places, but it has grown on me just a smidge, and i think i'd receive it a little better if it wasn't fundamentally more intensive to render. i think that's a line i can't respect and it feels like a step backwards. i don't want to wax nostalgic about windows 98 era ui's or the design patterns i see with a lot of qt apps either, like they are imo kind of ugly to me too. but i appreciated the consistency back in the 98 era, and i think a ui that restored 3d beveled looking components, were somewhat expressive but consistent is what i want. but the world is different now. things like flutter that give people a canvas and let them ground up their entire design language undoubtedly mean consistency can only exist within an entity's control, there likely will never be a unified agreed-upon set of ui standards that span industries and personal computing and different stacks anymore. kinda amusing that improved tooling and frameworks has just resulted in a wild west of user interface design.

DANmode 6mo ago

Regardless of your opinion of its present iteration, the whole push is for their AR/VR layered UI/UX shift - not just another random redesign they threw at the wall.

junaru 6mo ago
VR/AR is a gimmick. Gimmicks have no place on a work tool (macOS). No one is gonna use VR/AR with a laptop. Liquid Glass is Apples Metro UI. I'm still on 18.x thats insecure by now and switching to Asahi as soon as something breaks.
- wiseowise 6mo ago
  > VR/AR is a gimmick. Gimmicks have no place on a work tool (macOS). No one is gonna use VR/AR with a laptop. Liquid Glass is Apples Metro UI. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
  - DANmode 5mo ago
    I’ve come back to this thread a few times, and I’ve gotta say it: this is off-topic. Post a link to a recent comment of someone using glasses as a display. That’s on topic.
- carlosjobim 6mo ago
  AR will be extremely useful for real world jobs where people deal with physical reality. As opposed to office jobs, where people deal with computers and communication. Having blueprints and 3D models and info overlayed onto what you see in the real world can be very useful for farming, construction, infrastructure, and much more. Not to mention military application.
fauigerzigerk 6mo ago
Yes, the idea seems to be to force app developers to support transparency so that any future iGlasses device has a good supply of apps from day one (contrary to what happened with Vision Pro). Apple used to insist that different types of devices require different UI principles. This seems all the more true for a transparent device that you wear on your face while moving around trying not to bump into physical objects. But we'll see. Perhaps the right level of transparency is situational. If you sit down with iGlasses using them as a screen you might want to reduce transparency while increasing it when you're moving around outdoors. Adjusting transparency could become as routine as adjusting audio volume.

aurareturn 6mo ago

That guy left to join Meta I believe.

naravara 6mo ago
Thereby raising the average talent level of both companies. A truly Pareto optimal trade.
jack1243star 5mo ago
That explains the recent useless UI update on Quest OS, I guess

bushbaba 6mo ago

I hated liquid glass at first, but now i've come to appreciate it. It grows on you

theodric 6mo ago
So does fungus. I'd prefer to avoid both.
- goosejuice 6mo ago
  I dunno, I think fungus is pretty great. Cheese, salumi, beer, soy sauce, miso, kimchi, chocolate. Sounds like a boring life:)
  - eddieh 6mo ago
    Indeed those are pretty great, but none of those grow _on_ you.
    - goosejuice 5mo ago
      No, but there is the mycobiome.
  - theodric 5mo ago
    If you have kimchi fermenting on your body, please see a doctor.
trueno 5mo ago
i was getting annoyed at the state of shadcn/daisyui/the other six trillion ui patterns that have spawned since the abomination known as materialui and i actually realized liquid glass is the only meaningful step away from that we've seen in quite a long time. it's still not quite my tempo, looks downright silly in many places, but it has grown on me just a smidge, and i think i'd receive it a little better if it wasn't fundamentally more intensive to render. i think that's a line i can't respect and it feels like a step backwards. i don't want to wax nostalgic about windows 98 era ui's or the design patterns i see with a lot of qt apps either, like they are imo kind of ugly to me too. but i appreciated the consistency back in the 98 era, and i think a ui that restored 3d beveled looking components, were somewhat expressive but consistent is what i want. but the world is different now. things like flutter that give people a canvas and let them ground up their entire design language undoubtedly mean consistency can only exist within an entity's control, there likely will never be a unified agreed-upon set of ui standards that span industries and personal computing and different stacks anymore. kinda amusing that improved tooling and frameworks has just resulted in a wild west of user interface design.