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It's a very comparable game of cat and mouse to spam email filtering. People also tried to claim that spam was over because for a time companies like Google car
by lepus 6mo ago
It's a very comparable game of cat and mouse to spam email filtering. People also tried to claim that spam was over because for a time companies like Google cared enough to invest a lot in preventing as much as possible from getting through. If you've noticed in recent years the motivation to keep up that level of filtering has greatly diminished.
Whether model poisoning becomes a bigger issue depends on the incentives for companies to keep fighting it. For now in comparison to attackers the incentives and resources needed to defend against model poisoning are huge so it's just temporary setbacks. Will that unevenness in their favor always be the case?
- lxgr 6mo agoI feel like spam filtering has moved from statistical methods to pay-to-play: "These 10 large senders have a reasonable opt-out policy (on paper, we'll check any day now), so why would we filter anything they drop at our 25?"
- scythe 6mo ago>It's a very comparable game of cat and mouse to spam email filtering. People also tried to claim that spam was over because for a time companies like Google cared enough to invest a lot in preventing as much as possible from getting through. If you've noticed in recent years the motivation to keep up that level of filtering has greatly diminished. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equations#Solutions_to_the_equations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equatio...
- vidarh 6mo agoIndeed, the existence of public access to the spam detection mechanism (up to and including spammers having tons of Gmail accounts etc. to test deliverability with) provides the same mechanism: The spammers can use the detector meant to stop them, to alter behaviour to evade the detector.