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So exactly why is that a big deal when unlike Android - they actually keep their phones updated?

j1elo 6mo ago
Unlike Android indeed, when you maintain a perfectly working phone that happens (by accident or force of nature) to live longer than the official lifetime some executives in a remote office had decided to grant it, the web browser cannot be updated any more. Just the single most security sensitive piece of software of any computer. Who would have guessed people were going to complain!
- raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
  The iPhone 5s - released in 2013 - just got an update January 2026. The latest version of Chrome requires the version of Android released in 2019. Even phones that old aren’t getting other security updates. Is that really the argument you want to make?
  - SchemaLoad 6mo ago
    They give occasional security patches for the most critical bugs. They don't do full ios/safari updates. The iphone 5s is on ios 12.
    - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
      And neither does Google. The latest version of Chrome requires the version of Android released in 2019. The latest version of iOS supports my iPad released in 2019.
SchemaLoad 6mo ago
It's a deal when they stop updating. It is true they provide OS updates for longer than most, but many people use devices, especially ipads for way longer than the OS supported period. And those people are stuck on an old unsupported browser without being able to update or install a 3rd party one.
- raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
  As I said in another reply, Apple just did a security update for the iPhone 5s released in 2013 January of this year. The latest version of iOS runs on iPads back to 2919. The latest version of Chrome requires the version of Android - released in 2019. So how is it better?
  - SchemaLoad 6mo ago
    Chrome and Google being bad doesn't make Apple's restrictions good. That said, Android lets you install a 3rd party browser which can choose to keep supporting old devices. iOS locks everything to using the safari engine.
    - scarface_74 6mo ago
      And the latest version of Firefox requires the version of Android released in 2017… is that really a win?

j1elo 6mo ago

Unlike Android indeed, when you maintain a perfectly working phone that happens (by accident or force of nature) to live longer than the official lifetime some executives in a remote office had decided to grant it, the web browser cannot be updated any more. Just the single most security sensitive piece of software of any computer. Who would have guessed people were going to complain!

raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
The iPhone 5s - released in 2013 - just got an update January 2026. The latest version of Chrome requires the version of Android released in 2019. Even phones that old aren’t getting other security updates. Is that really the argument you want to make?
- SchemaLoad 6mo ago
  They give occasional security patches for the most critical bugs. They don't do full ios/safari updates. The iphone 5s is on ios 12.
  - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
    And neither does Google. The latest version of Chrome requires the version of Android released in 2019. The latest version of iOS supports my iPad released in 2019.

SchemaLoad 6mo ago

It's a deal when they stop updating. It is true they provide OS updates for longer than most, but many people use devices, especially ipads for way longer than the OS supported period. And those people are stuck on an old unsupported browser without being able to update or install a 3rd party one.

raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
As I said in another reply, Apple just did a security update for the iPhone 5s released in 2013 January of this year. The latest version of iOS runs on iPads back to 2919. The latest version of Chrome requires the version of Android - released in 2019. So how is it better?
- SchemaLoad 6mo ago
  Chrome and Google being bad doesn't make Apple's restrictions good. That said, Android lets you install a 3rd party browser which can choose to keep supporting old devices. iOS locks everything to using the safari engine.
  - scarface_74 6mo ago
    And the latest version of Firefox requires the version of Android released in 2017… is that really a win?