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I can name some terrible software, but it wouldn't be Apple's.

by baal80spam 6mo ago

ValentineC 6mo ago
macOS and iOS 26 are quite bad.
- basisword 6mo ago
  Give the competitors a try...
  - antiframe 6mo ago
    On macOS when I alt-tab to a full-screen app it takes forever. On KDE when I alt-tab to a full-screen app it's instantaneous. On macOS when I connect or disconnect an external monitor, my applications get all confused on where they should display, especially if I then reconnect a monitor. On KDE when I unplug my monitor everything goes nicely onto one desktop. When I put a monitor back in, everything goes back to where it was before. It just works. On macOS, every time I install a new program I need to do some dance with System preferences to allow it to run. I tried some command line settings that supposedly disables this, but it never sticks. Every few months, the process is different than it was before. On KDE, I just run my software and it works. On macOS, I don't have useful window snapping behavior or full-screen behavior, nor am I able to have focus follow my mouse. On KDE, I have these. macOS just doesn't work for me. But the competitors have a good solution.
    - basisword 6mo ago
      I've used Linux over the years. But a niche desktop environment being better in some very specific use cases isn't much of an argument.
      - antiframe 6mo ago
        Why not? People choose their tools by criteria that matter to their use cases. For some, alt-tab behavior doesn't matter. For others it's a primary pain point. Computing should be personal. Some people like to mold their tools to their way of working. Others adapt their way of working to their tools. KDE is for the former, and macOS is for the latter. Why would someone else use my criteria? They should use their own criteria? I certainly am not going to use your "it's niche so it can't be useful" criteria as it's important to my usage.
- anonyfox 6mo ago
  Really wanna discuss the current windows debacles? Come on! Apple software regressed but it’s not outright hostile bad still.
  - tcfhgj 6mo ago
    at least you can still decide on the software you install
    - esafak 6mo ago
      How do you not install all the ads?
  - array_key_first 6mo ago
    That's an extremely low bar, Windows has been shit for a long time and has basically only degraded. Some people think Windows 10 was good, it wasn't, they just haven't used Windows for long enough. Apple software isn't bad, but it is often obtuse and buggy. And, with iOS 26, usability has taken a big hit.
- dlahoda 6mo ago
  what is bad for you? was you at linux or windows - may be apple is best of all bad?
bigyabai 6mo ago
XCode, Apple Music, Siri, Apple Maps, The App Store, Finder, Safari, Spotlight, iCloud... I'd need another hand to fully count all the Apple apps that have burned me in the past.
- soapdog 6mo ago
  Can we add Photos to that list? Can we add it twice cause it is that bad.
  - bigyabai 6mo ago
    I'll add it once, we need a donor hand to tally the iOS and WatchOS versions.
  - gizajob 6mo ago
    Books can go on it too. No matter the free storage space on my iPad, it relentlessly nerfs stuff to iCloud rendering its utility on long aeroplane journeys completely worthless.
- jonhohle 6mo ago
  It’s so sad. Circa 2003 OS X wasn’t just good it was amazing. Nearly Movie OS quality. Every release the quality goes down. Every migration to SwiftUI more and more AppKit standard feature get lost.
  - tonyedgecombe 6mo ago
    In 2003 it was a dog’s dinner. I remember getting kernel panics from pulling out an already ejected USB stick.
  - internet2000 6mo ago
    2003 OS X sucked.
    - jonhohle 6mo ago
      Sucked compared to what? My OS X life began shortly before Panther, and coming from a Linux laptop everything was better. Compared to Windows XP, everything in Panther was better. Panther on a 1GHz TiBook was amazing compared to anything else at the time.

I can name some terrible software, but it wouldn't be Apple's.

ValentineC 6mo ago

macOS and iOS 26 are quite bad.

basisword 6mo ago
Give the competitors a try...
- antiframe 6mo ago
  On macOS when I alt-tab to a full-screen app it takes forever. On KDE when I alt-tab to a full-screen app it's instantaneous. On macOS when I connect or disconnect an external monitor, my applications get all confused on where they should display, especially if I then reconnect a monitor. On KDE when I unplug my monitor everything goes nicely onto one desktop. When I put a monitor back in, everything goes back to where it was before. It just works. On macOS, every time I install a new program I need to do some dance with System preferences to allow it to run. I tried some command line settings that supposedly disables this, but it never sticks. Every few months, the process is different than it was before. On KDE, I just run my software and it works. On macOS, I don't have useful window snapping behavior or full-screen behavior, nor am I able to have focus follow my mouse. On KDE, I have these. macOS just doesn't work for me. But the competitors have a good solution.
  - basisword 6mo ago
    I've used Linux over the years. But a niche desktop environment being better in some very specific use cases isn't much of an argument.
    - antiframe 6mo ago
      Why not? People choose their tools by criteria that matter to their use cases. For some, alt-tab behavior doesn't matter. For others it's a primary pain point. Computing should be personal. Some people like to mold their tools to their way of working. Others adapt their way of working to their tools. KDE is for the former, and macOS is for the latter. Why would someone else use my criteria? They should use their own criteria? I certainly am not going to use your "it's niche so it can't be useful" criteria as it's important to my usage.
anonyfox 6mo ago
Really wanna discuss the current windows debacles? Come on! Apple software regressed but it’s not outright hostile bad still.
- tcfhgj 6mo ago
  at least you can still decide on the software you install
  - esafak 6mo ago
    How do you not install all the ads?
- array_key_first 6mo ago
  That's an extremely low bar, Windows has been shit for a long time and has basically only degraded. Some people think Windows 10 was good, it wasn't, they just haven't used Windows for long enough. Apple software isn't bad, but it is often obtuse and buggy. And, with iOS 26, usability has taken a big hit.
dlahoda 6mo ago
what is bad for you? was you at linux or windows - may be apple is best of all bad?

bigyabai 6mo ago

XCode, Apple Music, Siri, Apple Maps, The App Store, Finder, Safari, Spotlight, iCloud... I'd need another hand to fully count all the Apple apps that have burned me in the past.

soapdog 6mo ago
Can we add Photos to that list? Can we add it twice cause it is that bad.
- bigyabai 6mo ago
  I'll add it once, we need a donor hand to tally the iOS and WatchOS versions.
- gizajob 6mo ago
  Books can go on it too. No matter the free storage space on my iPad, it relentlessly nerfs stuff to iCloud rendering its utility on long aeroplane journeys completely worthless.
jonhohle 6mo ago
It’s so sad. Circa 2003 OS X wasn’t just good it was amazing. Nearly Movie OS quality. Every release the quality goes down. Every migration to SwiftUI more and more AppKit standard feature get lost.
- tonyedgecombe 6mo ago
  In 2003 it was a dog’s dinner. I remember getting kernel panics from pulling out an already ejected USB stick.
- internet2000 6mo ago
  2003 OS X sucked.
  - jonhohle 6mo ago
    Sucked compared to what? My OS X life began shortly before Panther, and coming from a Linux laptop everything was better. Compared to Windows XP, everything in Panther was better. Panther on a 1GHz TiBook was amazing compared to anything else at the time.