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This thread is pretty quiet for what strikes me as a substantial set of changes with, presumably, more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfat

This thread is pretty quiet for what strikes me as a substantial set of changes with, presumably, more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfathered into a Pro plan. I get the impression that the intersection of HN posters and Copilot users is quite small in practice; that Claude Code and Codex suck up all the oxygen in this room. But it seems plausible we’ll see similar “true costs greatly exceed our current subscription pricing” from Anthropic and OpenAI someday soon…

andromaton 5mo ago
The ux of copilot driving Claude beats Claude Code handily. I never understood the low visibility. Expensive ram is annoying. I don't look forward to expensive ai.
alexaholic 5mo ago
> more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfathered into a Pro plan The change applies to existing subscriptions, some paid a year in advance.
- wdroz 5mo ago
  You can get a refund, from the article: > If you hit unexpected limits or these changes just don’t work for you, you can cancel your Pro or Pro+ subscription and you will not be charged for April usage. Please reach out to GitHub support between April 20 and May 20 for a refund.
  - sunaookami 5mo ago
    >and you will not be charged for April usage They removed this now without notice but Wayback Machine still has it: https://web.archive.org/web/20260420190656/https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/changes-to-github-copilot-individual-plans/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260420190656/https://github.bl...
    - sunaookami 5mo ago
      They now tacked on an Editor's note to the blog post.
firecall 5mo ago
Indeed! I just found out via other news sources, and was surprised I hadn't seen it on HN already.
sunaookami 5mo ago
Using Copilot Pro with Pi, way better and smarter than using Claude Code. I haven't gotten a single e-mail and just wanted to use Opus (I use Sonnet 95% of the time with Opus for issues where Sonnet is struggling) and got an error message. No prior warning, nothing, I'm pissed. They just rugpulled all paying customers man. I liked Copilot because I can plan my usage over a whole month and I'm not "forced" to use it for a week before hitting limits unlike Claude and Codex.
girvo 5mo ago
Anthropic literally just removed Claude Code from their Pro plan today, so you're even more right than you know.
- hypercube33 5mo ago
  Do you have a citation on this? I have a Claude Pro subscription and looked at the comparison page and it says this under Pro: Everything in Free and: Claude Code directly in your codebase Power through tasks with Cowork Higher usage limits Deep research and analysis Memory that carries across conversations
  - girvo 5mo ago
    Go to the pricing page: https://claude.com/pricing https://claude.com/pricing
    - Spoom 5mo ago
      As of right now, it says Pro includes Code and Cowork. (At least, for me. There could always be A/B testing going on.)
      - raesene9 5mo ago
        There is A/B testing going on and for a while several pages on Anthropic's site did remove Code from pro (https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1srzhd7/psa_claude_pro_no_longer_lists_claude_code_as_an/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1srzhd7/psa_claud...) if you want a lot more details.
  - vially 5mo ago
    It was recently discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565
to11mtm 5mo ago
.... Speaking as someone where he only 'real' option we have at work is Copilot Plugin, but I also use Copilot Plugin at home.... This is a shitty shitty shitty move. As a personal user, I can now only use Opus 4.7 at a 7.5x 'Introductory' multiplier if I upgrade to pro+, but at work I can still apparently do Opus 4.6 at a 3x Multiplier on my work 'enterprise' account. Honestly it strikes me as though someone at Github Copilot took Palantir's manifesto to heart; Screw the individual, consolidate power to companies on every level.
ignoramous 5mo ago
> But it seems plausible we’ll see similar "true costs greatly exceed our current subscription pricing" from Anthropic and OpenAI someday soon Enterprise might stick around, but individually, I reckon the developers will flock to OpenCode + open weights (Qwen/GLM/Codestral). The problem then is, if the open weight models impress these new adopters, they will shout about it from rooftops (conferences, social media, blogs) in unison, which might result in an exodus. Especially troublesome considering developers are a major market for both frontier labs (Anthropic & OpenAI) & its IPO ambitions.

andromaton 5mo ago

The ux of copilot driving Claude beats Claude Code handily. I never understood the low visibility. Expensive ram is annoying. I don't look forward to expensive ai.

alexaholic 5mo ago

> more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfathered into a Pro plan The change applies to existing subscriptions, some paid a year in advance.

wdroz 5mo ago
You can get a refund, from the article: > If you hit unexpected limits or these changes just don’t work for you, you can cancel your Pro or Pro+ subscription and you will not be charged for April usage. Please reach out to GitHub support between April 20 and May 20 for a refund.
- sunaookami 5mo ago
  >and you will not be charged for April usage They removed this now without notice but Wayback Machine still has it: https://web.archive.org/web/20260420190656/https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/changes-to-github-copilot-individual-plans/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260420190656/https://github.bl...
  - sunaookami 5mo ago
    They now tacked on an Editor's note to the blog post.

firecall 5mo ago

Indeed! I just found out via other news sources, and was surprised I hadn't seen it on HN already.

sunaookami 5mo ago

Using Copilot Pro with Pi, way better and smarter than using Claude Code. I haven't gotten a single e-mail and just wanted to use Opus (I use Sonnet 95% of the time with Opus for issues where Sonnet is struggling) and got an error message. No prior warning, nothing, I'm pissed. They just rugpulled all paying customers man. I liked Copilot because I can plan my usage over a whole month and I'm not "forced" to use it for a week before hitting limits unlike Claude and Codex.

girvo 5mo ago

Anthropic literally just removed Claude Code from their Pro plan today, so you're even more right than you know.

hypercube33 5mo ago
Do you have a citation on this? I have a Claude Pro subscription and looked at the comparison page and it says this under Pro: Everything in Free and: Claude Code directly in your codebase Power through tasks with Cowork Higher usage limits Deep research and analysis Memory that carries across conversations
- girvo 5mo ago
  Go to the pricing page: https://claude.com/pricing https://claude.com/pricing
  - Spoom 5mo ago
    As of right now, it says Pro includes Code and Cowork. (At least, for me. There could always be A/B testing going on.)
    - raesene9 5mo ago
      There is A/B testing going on and for a while several pages on Anthropic's site did remove Code from pro (https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1srzhd7/psa_claude_pro_no_longer_lists_claude_code_as_an/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1srzhd7/psa_claud...) if you want a lot more details.
- vially 5mo ago
  It was recently discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565

to11mtm 5mo ago

.... Speaking as someone where he only 'real' option we have at work is Copilot Plugin, but I also use Copilot Plugin at home.... This is a shitty shitty shitty move. As a personal user, I can now only use Opus 4.7 at a 7.5x 'Introductory' multiplier if I upgrade to pro+, but at work I can still apparently do Opus 4.6 at a 3x Multiplier on my work 'enterprise' account. Honestly it strikes me as though someone at Github Copilot took Palantir's manifesto to heart; Screw the individual, consolidate power to companies on every level.

ignoramous 5mo ago

> But it seems plausible we’ll see similar "true costs greatly exceed our current subscription pricing" from Anthropic and OpenAI someday soon Enterprise might stick around, but individually, I reckon the developers will flock to OpenCode + open weights (Qwen/GLM/Codestral). The problem then is, if the open weight models impress these new adopters, they will shout about it from rooftops (conferences, social media, blogs) in unison, which might result in an exodus. Especially troublesome considering developers are a major market for both frontier labs (Anthropic & OpenAI) & its IPO ambitions.