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I ride in my friends Model Y Performance occasionally and the FSD thoroughly impresses me. I don't understand what the complaints are. It goes from start to en

I ride in my friends Model Y Performance occasionally and the FSD thoroughly impresses me. I don't understand what the complaints are. It goes from start to end without any intervention the vast majority of the time. Any interventions still needed are pretty few and momentary at this point.

cogman10 6mo ago
I'm in a HW3 vehicle, so this may be different as it appears Tesla is done trying to develop for HW3. But, my observation is that 99% of the time, it does just as you say. It will fairly reliably take you from point A to B. However, there's that nagging 1% where the car tries to kill you in stupendous ways. It doesn't happen most trips and you have to react quick when it happens. For example, I've had the car not identify another vehicle and pull out in front of it (forcing me to hammer the accelerator). I've had it try and rapidly switch lanes ultimately cutting off people (I have it set to "chill" driving). I've had it not realize when lanes end or that it's in a turn only lane, forcing me to intervene and take the only legal move. For Highway/interstate driving, it's pretty flawless now. For city driving, I'm definitely a lot more on guard.
- SirMaster 6mo ago
  Yeah, my friend's is a HW4.5 vehicle apparently and on FSD v14.3.x
- singleshot_ 6mo ago
  > forcing me to hammer the accelerator Can’t think of any reason that might be a problematic hair-trigger response for a driver.
  - cucumber3732842 6mo ago
    >Can’t think of any reason that might be a problematic hair-trigger response for a driver. It wasn't a knee jerk response. It was a response he had on tap based upon level of situational awareness. The car pulled out poorly but he had been keeping enough of an eye on it that it that he was ready to intervene and just a "haha imma cut you off and then flor it because EV rocketship" asshole move rather than a near accident. No different than keeping tabs on something in your mirrors so you're ready if it develops in a particular way that causes you to want to take action. Or being ready to lane change as you approach a light in case the person in front of you decides at the last minute they want to turn there. If "brake pedal is magic button that makes all situations better" drivers drove on his level everyone's commute would be better.
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    - singleshot_ 6mo ago
      Only two levels of street driving: predictable and idiot.
cosmicgadget 6mo ago
I think the complaint is the people in the lawsuit were promised FSD and they aren't getting it.

cogman10 6mo ago

I'm in a HW3 vehicle, so this may be different as it appears Tesla is done trying to develop for HW3. But, my observation is that 99% of the time, it does just as you say. It will fairly reliably take you from point A to B. However, there's that nagging 1% where the car tries to kill you in stupendous ways. It doesn't happen most trips and you have to react quick when it happens. For example, I've had the car not identify another vehicle and pull out in front of it (forcing me to hammer the accelerator). I've had it try and rapidly switch lanes ultimately cutting off people (I have it set to "chill" driving). I've had it not realize when lanes end or that it's in a turn only lane, forcing me to intervene and take the only legal move. For Highway/interstate driving, it's pretty flawless now. For city driving, I'm definitely a lot more on guard.

SirMaster 6mo ago
Yeah, my friend's is a HW4.5 vehicle apparently and on FSD v14.3.x
singleshot_ 6mo ago
> forcing me to hammer the accelerator Can’t think of any reason that might be a problematic hair-trigger response for a driver.
- cucumber3732842 6mo ago
  >Can’t think of any reason that might be a problematic hair-trigger response for a driver. It wasn't a knee jerk response. It was a response he had on tap based upon level of situational awareness. The car pulled out poorly but he had been keeping enough of an eye on it that it that he was ready to intervene and just a "haha imma cut you off and then flor it because EV rocketship" asshole move rather than a near accident. No different than keeping tabs on something in your mirrors so you're ready if it develops in a particular way that causes you to want to take action. Or being ready to lane change as you approach a light in case the person in front of you decides at the last minute they want to turn there. If "brake pedal is magic button that makes all situations better" drivers drove on his level everyone's commute would be better.
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  - singleshot_ 6mo ago
    Only two levels of street driving: predictable and idiot.

cosmicgadget 6mo ago

I think the complaint is the people in the lawsuit were promised FSD and they aren't getting it.