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The article you cite refutes your claim, explicitly bringing up the lack of access to user data. I frankly don’t care if the App Store has advertisements. I wo

The article you cite refutes your claim, explicitly bringing up the lack of access to user data. I frankly don’t care if the App Store has advertisements. I would care if my data is (1) available to Apple to read by virtue of not being e2e encrypted, and (2) used to train models and target those advertisements.

fsflover 6mo ago
> I would care if my data is (1) available to Apple to read by virtue of not being e2e encrypted, and (2) used to train models and target those advertisements. Here we go: Apple fined $8.5M for illegally collecting iPhone owners' data for ads (gizmodo.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected (aalto.fi) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 Apple silently uploads your passwords and keeps them (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 Watchdog ponders why Apple doesn't apply its strict app tracking rules to itself (theregister.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 Apple memory holed its broken promise for an OCSP opt-out (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS (therecord.media) [but Apple still collects a lot!] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261
alt227 6mo ago
I dont mean to be rude but you obviously dont do much research about companies you seem to care a lot about. Apple have been caught time and time again undermining their users security and privacy, including syphoning off user data to government agencies etc. The sibling post cites enough reading to be getting on with, but heres a few more of my favourites for good measure: https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/11/12/apple-getting-sued-over-app-store-user-data-collection https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/11/12/apple-getting-sue... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/26/apple-contractors-regularly-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/26/apple-con... https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/governments-spying-apple-google-users-through-push-notifications-us-senator-2023-12-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/governments...

fsflover 6mo ago

> I would care if my data is (1) available to Apple to read by virtue of not being e2e encrypted, and (2) used to train models and target those advertisements. Here we go: Apple fined $8.5M for illegally collecting iPhone owners' data for ads (gizmodo.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected (aalto.fi) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 Apple silently uploads your passwords and keeps them (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 Watchdog ponders why Apple doesn't apply its strict app tracking rules to itself (theregister.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 Apple memory holed its broken promise for an OCSP opt-out (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS (therecord.media) [but Apple still collects a lot!] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261

alt227 6mo ago

I dont mean to be rude but you obviously dont do much research about companies you seem to care a lot about. Apple have been caught time and time again undermining their users security and privacy, including syphoning off user data to government agencies etc. The sibling post cites enough reading to be getting on with, but heres a few more of my favourites for good measure: https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/11/12/apple-getting-sued-over-app-store-user-data-collection https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/11/12/apple-getting-sue... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/26/apple-contractors-regularly-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/26/apple-con... https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/governments-spying-apple-google-users-through-push-notifications-us-senator-2023-12-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/governments...