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I wonder if there's a strategy behind all of this on China's side. I know the CCP uses a direct hand in many affairs in China, but is there an actual coordinate
by cedws 6mo ago
I wonder if there's a strategy behind all of this on China's side. I know the CCP uses a direct hand in many affairs in China, but is there an actual coordinated effort to compete with, or sabotage the West?
- gpm 6mo ago> but is there an actual coordinated effort to compete with [...] the West Yes, absolutely. China regularly produces long term planning documents to coordinate efforts, and the latest ones have specifically prioritized technology like chips and AI to compete with the west. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-parliament-approve-growth-policy-plans-amid-growing-us-rivalry-2026-03-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-parliament-approve... I don't believe there's any publicly stated intent to sabotage the west... unsurprisingly.
- SXX 6mo agoChinese AI companies want investors too. Nobody would believe they can compete with western companies unless they release something you can run on your own hardware. After all historically both statistics and research that comes out of China is not very trustworthy.
- try-working 6mo agoIf there's no open source models coming out of these small labs, why would anybody care about them? They would be forgotten the instant they stop open sourcing.
- anana_ 6mo agoHypothesizing here, but maybe the idea is sort of a form of technological/economic warfare? Releasing performance equivalent yet more cost efficient open weight models should in theory drive the cost of inference down everywhere. This I assume will make it more difficult for US AI labs to turn a profit, which might make investors question their sky high valuations. Any sort of melt down in the AI sector would almost certainly spread to the wider US market. In contrast, in China, most of the funding for AI is coming directly from the government, so it's unlikely the same capital flight scenario would happen.
- gmerc 6mo agoWhy compete when you can build on each other. Someone is finally getting that china is not capitalist like the US.
- bachmeier 6mo agoSeems obvious to me that China would not want to give the AI market to US companies. You don't even need anything like an attempt to "sabotage the West". If I were them (the companies or the government) I'd be very hesitant to let US companies dominate this space. Especially companies that close to the current US administration.
- Zetaphor 6mo agoExactly, more large nations should be establishing or fostering their own labs. Outside of the Chinese and US companies there's really only Mistral.
- quesera 6mo agoAll China has to do here is stay in the game and wait patiently while the US and EU press pause on data centers. See also: solar panels. We're making this way too easy. The rationale and logic are reasonable, but ultimately irrelevant.
- try-working 6mo agoChinese labs have no marketing and sales capacity in the overseas market, so they in fact have no choice but to open source their models as that is what brings awareness and trust in their models. In fact, it is overseas open source marketing that drives adoption of their models in China as well. I wrote about this here: https://try.works/writing-1#why-chinese-ai-labs-went-open-and-will-remain-open https://try.works/writing-1#why-chinese-ai-labs-went-open-an...