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THIS administration? As if we just arrived here in 2024?

by at-fates-hands 6mo ago

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cdrnsf 6mo ago
Well, no. There was an interlude and now an even faster acceleration into madness, incompetence, grift and hypocrisy.
- hagbard_c 6mo ago
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  - Craighead 6mo ago
    Been downhill since Nixon bud.
  - hagbard_c 6mo ago
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    - arbitrary_name 6mo ago
      1) the Biden administration didn't start the war with Iran. 2)Sleepy Joe didn't pick a fight with the Pope and that's just in the last month! but that won't change your mind. nothing will.
    - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
      Its because you sound like someone living in a bubble. There is very similar tone across maga apologists. And it just gets tiring to engage with. 1. Someone will take the bait and quote some facts. 2. The maga apologists will say 'fake news'. I don't accept those sources. 3. There will be some back and forth without convincing anybody. 4. Maybe some speculation that this is a right wing bot. 5. Eventually the argument devolves down to, Nothing means anything, nothing is fact, nothing can be proven, the moon is flat, we live in an illusion. I personally think it is because of Brandolini's law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law Your post sounds like it will go down the typical right wing rabbit hole. Trying to cite evidence against their infinite bullshit is losing battle. It takes a lot of energy, and that is the goal, to tire people out.
      - thin_carapace 6mo ago
        the original commenter is correct in that at the time of commenting he was downvoted without a valid argument transaction having completed. i dont believe that tone policing has any effect in this instance, outside of virtue signalling
        whatisthiseven 6mo ago
        A transaction can't complete if one were never opened. I am wrapping this comment thread in a finally and returning.
        thin_carapace 6mo ago
        its not clear whether youre ramping up the virtue signalling, being polite, or trying to be the argumentative strongman. if you care about the way you look to me, the former and latter would probably be my perception of you. out of good faith i shall follow the middle option and execute the jump instruction myself.
        FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
        It is not just 'tone police', or signaling. I have watched a enough of Fox News to know they are not reporting, on a number of subjects. And so people that only consume right wing news, are in a bubble, and their arguments do follow similar patterns based on that ignorance. My response was what it was, just seeing the pattern presenting itself early. Why waste more time on engaging with BS? Arguing with True Believers with facts and citations, goes nowhere.
        thin_carapace 6mo ago
        to me it sounds like youre too weak of an argumenter to crack deep programming, and would rather throw the towel in early than have an attempt. sure man, that's your call. just saying it looks super weak to throw the towel in, may as well not get in the ring.
    - Uhhrrr 6mo ago
      The reason is clearly "signaling", because they certainly weren't furthering discussion.
    - joquarky 6mo ago
      That victim mindset will get you far.
    - malshe 6mo ago
      If you were expecting it then why even bother? Btw your original post reads like something from Joe Rogan's toolbox
  - arbitrary_name 6mo ago
    the Biden administration ( i hated sleepy Joe) was so much more competent and less corrupt then these guys. it's not even close. "Hunter bidens laptop!!" seems so distant and quaint. the Pentagon declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, attempting to punitively destroy the company, then is adopting their product; please name a similarly asinine and farcical event from ANY administration. your whataboutism is just not capable of standing up to the weaponized idiocy of these guys.
    - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
      The manipulation of crypto markets, based on the timing of military attacks, is such open corruption, under any other administration there would be an immediate special prosecutor and impeachment.
      - SR2Z 6mo ago
        Forget the crypto markets, it was obvious that multibillion dollar profits were being made on well-timed trades in stock and options markets before every tariff announcement. I really, really hope that when Trump is out of office and a Democrat is back in, they'll be willing to play exactly as dirty going after Trump's enemies. I think it will be a good lesson on why the rule of law and human rights are so indispensable. No more going high while they go low, that's how we get faceless men from the government showing up to our doors intent on violating our rights.
        FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
        Sorry. Meant to say, the new Prediction Markets. Where you can bet on events. There are clearly bets being made within minutes of 'tweets', which move the markets. And of course, the real markets, and options.
    - hopinhopout 6mo ago
      Two wings of the same bird, the fight will always be between working class and the elites. Just know that when you fall for control opposition manipulation these people get a good laugh out of every second of arguing
  - joquarky 6mo ago
    > ... interesting ... What is this?
  - cdrnsf 6mo ago
    The Biden administration didn’t cripple the government, kidnap heads of state, start yet another war in the Middle East, deploy a paramilitary that killed US citizens and terrorized countless more. Biden didn’t use the office to enrich himself or sabotage alliances that took decades to build or routinely violate civil rights. This administration has been an embarrassment at best and it’s not even halfway through.
    - bdangubic 6mo ago
      not to mention The President begging Iran to open something via social media at 2:00am… not even third-world country’s citizens get to live through that kind of embarrasment and humiliation.
seventytwo 6mo ago
Yes. This administration. The Trump administration. Clear enough?
- at-fates-hands 6mo ago
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  - insane_dreamer 6mo ago
    it doesn't take bias to spot the corruption in this government; yes, there have always been problems, but the level of corruption and grift in this administration is truly unprecedented (you'd have to go back to before Civil Service Reform Act to find possibly comparable levels). but if you have examples from previous admins, feel free to explain how they're comparable
    - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
      "unprecedented " Truly, so unprecedented, that it is being ignored, how could this be real? The mind boggles. So bad, that it isn't believed. The Attorney General is on the payroll of Qatar, and Qatar 'donates' a 400 million dollar jumbo jet, and the Attorney General signs off on it? Come on, who is swallowing that. And yet it is now old news, who cares. Past administrations would return gifts that cost 50$ just to stay in the rules.
      - insane_dreamer 6mo ago
        Kristy Noem's $220M ICE self-promo ad campaign that is awarded no-bid to a company founded just days before the deal, which it turns out subcontracted the work to a company with long ties to her and run by the husband of her spokesperson And that hardly made the news. https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campaign-strategy-group https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campai...
    - account42 6mo ago
      It does take bias to ignore the corruption in previous governments by pretending this is something new.

THIS administration? As if we just arrived here in 2024?

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cdrnsf 6mo ago

Well, no. There was an interlude and now an even faster acceleration into madness, incompetence, grift and hypocrisy.

hagbard_c 6mo ago
[flagged]
- Craighead 6mo ago
  Been downhill since Nixon bud.
- hagbard_c 6mo ago
  [flagged]
  - arbitrary_name 6mo ago
    1) the Biden administration didn't start the war with Iran. 2)Sleepy Joe didn't pick a fight with the Pope and that's just in the last month! but that won't change your mind. nothing will.
  - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
    Its because you sound like someone living in a bubble. There is very similar tone across maga apologists. And it just gets tiring to engage with. 1. Someone will take the bait and quote some facts. 2. The maga apologists will say 'fake news'. I don't accept those sources. 3. There will be some back and forth without convincing anybody. 4. Maybe some speculation that this is a right wing bot. 5. Eventually the argument devolves down to, Nothing means anything, nothing is fact, nothing can be proven, the moon is flat, we live in an illusion. I personally think it is because of Brandolini's law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law Your post sounds like it will go down the typical right wing rabbit hole. Trying to cite evidence against their infinite bullshit is losing battle. It takes a lot of energy, and that is the goal, to tire people out.
    - thin_carapace 6mo ago
      the original commenter is correct in that at the time of commenting he was downvoted without a valid argument transaction having completed. i dont believe that tone policing has any effect in this instance, outside of virtue signalling
      - whatisthiseven 6mo ago
        A transaction can't complete if one were never opened. I am wrapping this comment thread in a finally and returning.
        thin_carapace 6mo ago
        its not clear whether youre ramping up the virtue signalling, being polite, or trying to be the argumentative strongman. if you care about the way you look to me, the former and latter would probably be my perception of you. out of good faith i shall follow the middle option and execute the jump instruction myself.
        FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
        It is not just 'tone police', or signaling. I have watched a enough of Fox News to know they are not reporting, on a number of subjects. And so people that only consume right wing news, are in a bubble, and their arguments do follow similar patterns based on that ignorance. My response was what it was, just seeing the pattern presenting itself early. Why waste more time on engaging with BS? Arguing with True Believers with facts and citations, goes nowhere.
        thin_carapace 6mo ago
        to me it sounds like youre too weak of an argumenter to crack deep programming, and would rather throw the towel in early than have an attempt. sure man, that's your call. just saying it looks super weak to throw the towel in, may as well not get in the ring.
  - Uhhrrr 6mo ago
    The reason is clearly "signaling", because they certainly weren't furthering discussion.
  - joquarky 6mo ago
    That victim mindset will get you far.
  - malshe 6mo ago
    If you were expecting it then why even bother? Btw your original post reads like something from Joe Rogan's toolbox
- arbitrary_name 6mo ago
  the Biden administration ( i hated sleepy Joe) was so much more competent and less corrupt then these guys. it's not even close. "Hunter bidens laptop!!" seems so distant and quaint. the Pentagon declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, attempting to punitively destroy the company, then is adopting their product; please name a similarly asinine and farcical event from ANY administration. your whataboutism is just not capable of standing up to the weaponized idiocy of these guys.
  - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
    The manipulation of crypto markets, based on the timing of military attacks, is such open corruption, under any other administration there would be an immediate special prosecutor and impeachment.
    - SR2Z 6mo ago
      Forget the crypto markets, it was obvious that multibillion dollar profits were being made on well-timed trades in stock and options markets before every tariff announcement. I really, really hope that when Trump is out of office and a Democrat is back in, they'll be willing to play exactly as dirty going after Trump's enemies. I think it will be a good lesson on why the rule of law and human rights are so indispensable. No more going high while they go low, that's how we get faceless men from the government showing up to our doors intent on violating our rights.
      - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
        Sorry. Meant to say, the new Prediction Markets. Where you can bet on events. There are clearly bets being made within minutes of 'tweets', which move the markets. And of course, the real markets, and options.
  - hopinhopout 6mo ago
    Two wings of the same bird, the fight will always be between working class and the elites. Just know that when you fall for control opposition manipulation these people get a good laugh out of every second of arguing
- joquarky 6mo ago
  > ... interesting ... What is this?
- cdrnsf 6mo ago
  The Biden administration didn’t cripple the government, kidnap heads of state, start yet another war in the Middle East, deploy a paramilitary that killed US citizens and terrorized countless more. Biden didn’t use the office to enrich himself or sabotage alliances that took decades to build or routinely violate civil rights. This administration has been an embarrassment at best and it’s not even halfway through.
  - bdangubic 6mo ago
    not to mention The President begging Iran to open something via social media at 2:00am… not even third-world country’s citizens get to live through that kind of embarrasment and humiliation.

seventytwo 6mo ago

Yes. This administration. The Trump administration. Clear enough?

at-fates-hands 6mo ago
[flagged]
- insane_dreamer 6mo ago
  it doesn't take bias to spot the corruption in this government; yes, there have always been problems, but the level of corruption and grift in this administration is truly unprecedented (you'd have to go back to before Civil Service Reform Act to find possibly comparable levels). but if you have examples from previous admins, feel free to explain how they're comparable
  - FrustratedMonky 6mo ago
    "unprecedented " Truly, so unprecedented, that it is being ignored, how could this be real? The mind boggles. So bad, that it isn't believed. The Attorney General is on the payroll of Qatar, and Qatar 'donates' a 400 million dollar jumbo jet, and the Attorney General signs off on it? Come on, who is swallowing that. And yet it is now old news, who cares. Past administrations would return gifts that cost 50$ just to stay in the rules.
    - insane_dreamer 6mo ago
      Kristy Noem's $220M ICE self-promo ad campaign that is awarded no-bid to a company founded just days before the deal, which it turns out subcontracted the work to a company with long ties to her and run by the husband of her spokesperson And that hardly made the news. https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campaign-strategy-group https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campai...
  - account42 6mo ago
    It does take bias to ignore the corruption in previous governments by pretending this is something new.