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We should pass laws that require the weird clicking gymnastics to opt-in to tracking. Instead of the default opt-in hidden in the terms and conditions nobody r

We should pass laws that require the weird clicking gymnastics to opt-in to tracking. Instead of the default opt-in hidden in the terms and conditions nobody reads.

HWR_14 6mo ago
The EU did that and people still bitch about GDPR banners on websites.
- _factor 6mo ago
  They took what should have been a browser on/off switch and turned it into something almost worse.
  - troupo 6mo ago
    GDPR isn't about cookies, or any specific tech. It's a GENERAL Data Protection Regulation. On top of that it literally defines opt-out as the default state As for browsers, imagine if world's largest advertising and tracking company that incidentally builds world's dominant browser and dominates all web standards would implement this as a browser switch instead of inventing new ways of tricking you into surveillance? https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1908951546869498085 https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1908951546869498085 and https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1664682689591377923 https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1664682689591377923
- alt227 6mo ago
  GDPR didnt do it, lazy site owners that didnt want to read the legislation did. Most sites dont even need those popups, but its easier to just shove one on your site than try to understand the specific situations which do need it.
  - kimixa 6mo ago
    Yeah, the banners/popups aren't required by gdpr, they're the "malicious compliance" solution site owners came up with because they don't want to comply with the limitations, and make it as difficult as possible for the user not to let them.
- pizzly 6mo ago
  The law had good intention but bad implementation. Also the law takes so long to change. Once it became obvious that companies would bypass it by having clicking gymnastics they needed to quickly update the law saying that it should only take one click to opt out.
  - fsflover 6mo ago
    What is wrong with its implementation? All the cookie banners aren't in the law; their basically malicious compliance.
  - HWR_14 6mo ago
    The original law had a rule that the opt out of all had to be just as prominent as opt in to all. Many companies didn't know that, so it took a year or so of enforcement for them to start getting the message.

We should pass laws that require the weird clicking gymnastics to opt-in to tracking. Instead of the default opt-in hidden in the terms and conditions nobody reads.

HWR_14 6mo ago

The EU did that and people still bitch about GDPR banners on websites.

_factor 6mo ago
They took what should have been a browser on/off switch and turned it into something almost worse.
- troupo 6mo ago
  GDPR isn't about cookies, or any specific tech. It's a GENERAL Data Protection Regulation. On top of that it literally defines opt-out as the default state As for browsers, imagine if world's largest advertising and tracking company that incidentally builds world's dominant browser and dominates all web standards would implement this as a browser switch instead of inventing new ways of tricking you into surveillance? https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1908951546869498085 https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1908951546869498085 and https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1664682689591377923 https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1664682689591377923
alt227 6mo ago
GDPR didnt do it, lazy site owners that didnt want to read the legislation did. Most sites dont even need those popups, but its easier to just shove one on your site than try to understand the specific situations which do need it.
- kimixa 6mo ago
  Yeah, the banners/popups aren't required by gdpr, they're the "malicious compliance" solution site owners came up with because they don't want to comply with the limitations, and make it as difficult as possible for the user not to let them.
pizzly 6mo ago
The law had good intention but bad implementation. Also the law takes so long to change. Once it became obvious that companies would bypass it by having clicking gymnastics they needed to quickly update the law saying that it should only take one click to opt out.
- fsflover 6mo ago
  What is wrong with its implementation? All the cookie banners aren't in the law; their basically malicious compliance.
- HWR_14 6mo ago
  The original law had a rule that the opt out of all had to be just as prominent as opt in to all. Many companies didn't know that, so it took a year or so of enforcement for them to start getting the message.