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Peter Thiel Is Building a Parallel Justice System – Powered by AI

75 points by cdrnsf 6mo ago

tgrover 6mo ago
the journalist trust score could be useful to limit the spread of AI generated news. Overall, a human supervisor feels like a necessity considering the weight of the decisions taken
- cdrnsf 6mo ago
  Thiel is the last person I’d trust with any efforts related to journalism.
  - pstuart 6mo ago
    Not only are his ethics horrible, but he's crazy to boot: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-rome-intl https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist... And for an extra dose of irony: "arguing that the Antichrist is not necessarily a person but could come as a global government system". Gosh I wonder where Palantir fits into that?
cshores 6mo ago
It will pair well with his Palantir pre-crime division.
cwmoore 6mo ago
There already is a parallel system of justice. Its name is The Department of Justice.
- pstuart 6mo ago
  Which really should be named The Department Of The Legal System, as justice is a rare byproduct of their workings.
motbus3 6mo ago
How can a faulty unreliable system that is easily prone to manipulation can make part of justice system?
- gowld 6mo ago
  Always has been.
  - dudjxj28e 6mo ago
    things have always been bad and so it’s okay for them to become worse is probably somewhere near the root of every decline
poulpy123 6mo ago
> Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale. > Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus.
contingencies 6mo ago
The reservations expressed here are fair and Peter hasn't exactly distinguished himself as a holistic empathy-espousing human. However, extra-institutional process is already a fixture in corporate law, for example arbitration. I'm dealing with a small US state-level jurisdiction at the moment and they can't even get their own rules published online (link is 'legacy.blah...' and times out) which makes placing trust in prosecution for flagrant violations impossible. I would go for arbitration through an official body but their timelines are worse and damage limits don't cover process. As a second example, it is also a fixture in housing market law in some jurisdictions. I rented out a house here in Australia and had bad tenants who destroyed things, stole things, grew weed and stole electricity from the grid, leaving me with various damages. After a protracted 'tribunal' (local jurisdiction non-court proceeding with reduced powers and damage scope), I got nothing despite a massive weight of undisputable evidence basically because they couldn't be bothered evaluating it and there was no effective oversight. The honest truth is I've had better, more balanced and effective judgements from Chinese courts. This shocked me. That is to say: there is clearly a place for faster and fairer resolutions, even if just for small claims. I can see strong support for the approach in these cases. We do need appeals to humans, and we do need a limit. But it would prospectively be useful in these cases, especially if the system is designed to avoid corruption and to run isolated from the internet. You could even have a plurality of non-profits producing best-effort judges and voting. Disparate versions could be regression tested with anomalous decisions flagged for human review. That way it would be very hard to game because targeted attacks could be readily identified. It's hard to think of a future in which humans are the most efficient means of governance. Carefully designed AI can free us of corruption, sloth, and procedural bullshit. As long as we have good oversight and transparency, from my experience as a business person across a range of jurisdictions and matters, it's hard to consider it worse than current solutions. So-called democratic representation is bullshit, and politicians know it: "Mamdani for prez!" He'll be sold out before entry - same as the others, just with a cleaner nose and cuter back-story. If anyone wants to build an alternative to Judge Thiel, I'm in.
- idiotsecant 6mo ago
  You're kidding yourself if you think governance by AI is somehow not magically governance by the worst kind of humans. If anything the humans can say I donno,the AI did it! When they cause the system to generate the outcome they wanted. Tech isn't magic, you still have the same messy people problems.
babelfish 6mo ago
Why would any media company care about what Objection says or agree to arbitration?
- yesfitz 6mo ago
  From TFA: "Financial details are vague, but the company has said the process will cost around $2,000 — far less than the retainer of a crisis communications expert."
sheepscreek 6mo ago
> “It was simply the first large media company to be tested against reality in the age of clicks.” > D’Souza is banking on everyone having forgotten that the Hulk Hogan case had nothing to do with “reality.” It was undisputed that the sex tape published by Gawker was real. I guess the “reality” here is that our world is governed by plutocrats.
burnt-resistor 6mo ago
Apropos book: The Dual State: A Contribution to the Theory of Dictatorship 2 justice systems: a normative state which seems fair and continuous with what came before, and a prerogative state which is arbitrary, cruel, and usually covert.
bcjdjsndon 6mo ago
Peter thiel the rational investor that dropped millions on a personal vendetta? Peter thiel the gay man who roleplays as Christian for some reason?
conartist6 6mo ago
Sounds like a proper wank

75 points by cdrnsf 6mo ago

the journalist trust score could be useful to limit the spread of AI generated news. Overall, a human supervisor feels like a necessity considering the weight of the decisions taken

cdrnsf 6mo ago
Thiel is the last person I’d trust with any efforts related to journalism.
- pstuart 6mo ago
  Not only are his ethics horrible, but he's crazy to boot: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-rome-intl https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist... And for an extra dose of irony: "arguing that the Antichrist is not necessarily a person but could come as a global government system". Gosh I wonder where Palantir fits into that?

cshores 6mo ago

It will pair well with his Palantir pre-crime division.

cwmoore 6mo ago

There already is a parallel system of justice. Its name is The Department of Justice.

pstuart 6mo ago
Which really should be named The Department Of The Legal System, as justice is a rare byproduct of their workings.

motbus3 6mo ago

How can a faulty unreliable system that is easily prone to manipulation can make part of justice system?

gowld 6mo ago
Always has been.
- dudjxj28e 6mo ago
  things have always been bad and so it’s okay for them to become worse is probably somewhere near the root of every decline

poulpy123 6mo ago

> Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale. > Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus.

contingencies 6mo ago

The reservations expressed here are fair and Peter hasn't exactly distinguished himself as a holistic empathy-espousing human. However, extra-institutional process is already a fixture in corporate law, for example arbitration. I'm dealing with a small US state-level jurisdiction at the moment and they can't even get their own rules published online (link is 'legacy.blah...' and times out) which makes placing trust in prosecution for flagrant violations impossible. I would go for arbitration through an official body but their timelines are worse and damage limits don't cover process. As a second example, it is also a fixture in housing market law in some jurisdictions. I rented out a house here in Australia and had bad tenants who destroyed things, stole things, grew weed and stole electricity from the grid, leaving me with various damages. After a protracted 'tribunal' (local jurisdiction non-court proceeding with reduced powers and damage scope), I got nothing despite a massive weight of undisputable evidence basically because they couldn't be bothered evaluating it and there was no effective oversight. The honest truth is I've had better, more balanced and effective judgements from Chinese courts. This shocked me. That is to say: there is clearly a place for faster and fairer resolutions, even if just for small claims. I can see strong support for the approach in these cases. We do need appeals to humans, and we do need a limit. But it would prospectively be useful in these cases, especially if the system is designed to avoid corruption and to run isolated from the internet. You could even have a plurality of non-profits producing best-effort judges and voting. Disparate versions could be regression tested with anomalous decisions flagged for human review. That way it would be very hard to game because targeted attacks could be readily identified. It's hard to think of a future in which humans are the most efficient means of governance. Carefully designed AI can free us of corruption, sloth, and procedural bullshit. As long as we have good oversight and transparency, from my experience as a business person across a range of jurisdictions and matters, it's hard to consider it worse than current solutions. So-called democratic representation is bullshit, and politicians know it: "Mamdani for prez!" He'll be sold out before entry - same as the others, just with a cleaner nose and cuter back-story. If anyone wants to build an alternative to Judge Thiel, I'm in.

idiotsecant 6mo ago
You're kidding yourself if you think governance by AI is somehow not magically governance by the worst kind of humans. If anything the humans can say I donno,the AI did it! When they cause the system to generate the outcome they wanted. Tech isn't magic, you still have the same messy people problems.

babelfish 6mo ago

Why would any media company care about what Objection says or agree to arbitration?

yesfitz 6mo ago
From TFA: "Financial details are vague, but the company has said the process will cost around $2,000 — far less than the retainer of a crisis communications expert."

sheepscreek 6mo ago

> “It was simply the first large media company to be tested against reality in the age of clicks.” > D’Souza is banking on everyone having forgotten that the Hulk Hogan case had nothing to do with “reality.” It was undisputed that the sex tape published by Gawker was real. I guess the “reality” here is that our world is governed by plutocrats.

burnt-resistor 6mo ago

Apropos book: The Dual State: A Contribution to the Theory of Dictatorship 2 justice systems: a normative state which seems fair and continuous with what came before, and a prerogative state which is arbitrary, cruel, and usually covert.

bcjdjsndon 6mo ago

Peter thiel the rational investor that dropped millions on a personal vendetta? Peter thiel the gay man who roleplays as Christian for some reason?

conartist6 6mo ago

Sounds like a proper wank