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Several places also have a "hostile loop": - can't get a job without a local bank account - can't get a bank account without a residential address
by pjc50 7mo ago
Several places also have a "hostile loop":
- can't get a job without a local bank account
- can't get a bank account without a residential address
- can't get a (rented) residential address without proof of employment
- getting a local phone number may also depend on / be required for any of these steps
There's usually "fixer" services which help people get out of this mess, but it can be a real problem even for 100% legitimate professional class immigrant workers.
- lo_zamoyski 7mo agoI don't think exceptions or confined bad side effects make for very good arguments against general policy. You wouldn't ban planes, because sometimes they crash. This isn't math. We're not proving that a rule holds for every element of the domain.
- pjc50 7mo ago.. unless you're the person to whom the side effects are happening. How many citizens is it acceptable to wrongly deport or debank, potentially without trial?
- lo_zamoyski 7mo agoYou have to consider 1. the moral status of the process or parts of the process as such 2. whether the evil of undesirable side effects exceeds the good effects of the policy