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> I don't see any news about a stressed power grid in this area. That's because you don't live in Maryland. Our energy bills are through the roof and our tran

> I don't see any news about a stressed power grid in this area. That's because you don't live in Maryland. Our energy bills are through the roof and our transmission company is talking about rolling blackouts in 2027. https://www.thebanner.com/community/climate-environment/contested-transmission-line-NBPOSUMDNVEYTKYM2UBCZ2IWKU/ https://www.thebanner.com/community/climate-environment/cont...

throwaway2037 6mo ago
Well, they have done pretty well for 20 years of planning. Google tells me that AWS us-east-1 region (Northern Virginia) was started in 2006! EDIT The opening paragraph: > State regulators’ review of the controversial power line proposed to stretch across three rural Maryland counties will extend to at least February 2027, officials announced Thursday, a timeline that prevents developers from meeting the grid operator’s deadline to ensure reliable electricity. I bet this is pure NIMBYism. Just this phrase alone is a dead giveaway: "controversial power line". LOL: What is controversial about a power line? Hint: They aren't, but NIMBYism exists.
- neutronicus 6mo ago
  Sure, just pointing to some news coverage in which grid operators allege that the grid is stressed in the DMV area.
  - AnthonyMouse 6mo ago
    The grid is constantly "stressed" everywhere, because they're designed to be. You don't build five times as much capacity as you need at huge expense for no reason, you design the thing to have only slightly more capacity than you expect to need. If demand increases you have to build more generation and power lines etc. This is not a problem but for NIMBYs, it's just the logical consequence. If the local population increases and you don't have enough grocery stores you don't say "grocery stores are stressed" and regard it as an insurmountable problem, people just open more of them.
    - throwaway2037 6mo ago
      Chef's kiss for this reply. It is perfect. I like how you reframed the argument around grocery stores. It would be ridiculous to write a newspaper article about "grocery stores are stressed" and there is a newly proposed "controversial grocery store". NIMBYists will perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to defend their positions.

throwaway2037 6mo ago

Well, they have done pretty well for 20 years of planning. Google tells me that AWS us-east-1 region (Northern Virginia) was started in 2006! EDIT The opening paragraph: > State regulators’ review of the controversial power line proposed to stretch across three rural Maryland counties will extend to at least February 2027, officials announced Thursday, a timeline that prevents developers from meeting the grid operator’s deadline to ensure reliable electricity. I bet this is pure NIMBYism. Just this phrase alone is a dead giveaway: "controversial power line". LOL: What is controversial about a power line? Hint: They aren't, but NIMBYism exists.

neutronicus 6mo ago
Sure, just pointing to some news coverage in which grid operators allege that the grid is stressed in the DMV area.
- AnthonyMouse 6mo ago
  The grid is constantly "stressed" everywhere, because they're designed to be. You don't build five times as much capacity as you need at huge expense for no reason, you design the thing to have only slightly more capacity than you expect to need. If demand increases you have to build more generation and power lines etc. This is not a problem but for NIMBYs, it's just the logical consequence. If the local population increases and you don't have enough grocery stores you don't say "grocery stores are stressed" and regard it as an insurmountable problem, people just open more of them.
  - throwaway2037 6mo ago
    Chef's kiss for this reply. It is perfect. I like how you reframed the argument around grocery stores. It would be ridiculous to write a newspaper article about "grocery stores are stressed" and there is a newly proposed "controversial grocery store". NIMBYists will perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to defend their positions.