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Look, there is no way corporations would lie for their own interest. Especially when they spent tens of billions to develop something. It's not like they sold
by oblio 6mo ago
Look, there is no way corporations would lie for their own interest. Especially when they spent tens of billions to develop something.
It's not like they sold us leaded gasoline or "healthy tobacco" for decades.
- gchamonlive 6mo ago[flagged]
- Forgeties79 6mo agoThat’s certainly the myth musk and his compatriots repeat whenever they’re slightly inconvenienced by consideration for the broader public, yes.
- philipallstar 6mo ago[flagged]
- post-it 6mo agoUsually when people provide examples, they're intended to serve as a representative sample of a larger trend, and not an exhaustive list. Hope that helps.
- cj 6mo agoTheir point still stands. Not all companies do illegal things. IMO it’s also a distraction to blame it on “capitalism” or some “larger trend” rather than just pointing directly at the company and people responsible. “The system is broken” line hasn’t worked for years now. Maybe if we stop blaming the system and start blaming the people?
- ModernMech 6mo agoNo one claimed all companies do illegal things.
- philipallstar 6mo agoAll of this is a crazy overgeneralisation of the hundreds of millions of companies in the world: > Look, there is no way corporations would lie for their own interest. Especially when they spent tens of billions to develop something. > It's not like they sold us leaded gasoline or "healthy tobacco" for decades.
- ModernMech 6mo agoSaying "corporations have lied in the past for their own self interest" and then pointing to two very well known examples does not imply or over generalize that all corporations do that. The point isn't to demonize all corporations, it's to say specifically that a pathology of some megacorporations is broadscale lying to the public about the safety of their products for personal gain.
- sumeno 6mo agoIf I say "Ted is the Unibomber" do you think I'm saying everyone named Ted is the Unibomber? This is basic reading comprehension stuff
- philipallstar 6mo ago[flagged]
- tonyedgecombe 6mo ago>Not all companies do illegal things. The Koch brothers stopped breaking the law because it was too expensive. Instead they started lobbying to get the laws changed. This is where the idea that the system is rotten comes from.
- Forgeties79 6mo agoYou would be surprised how passionately people defend Tesla on HN sometimes, especially when safety records come up.
- friendzis 6mo agoOtherwise number go down
- lotsofpulp 6mo agoLiability insurance pricing tells the whole story, without clickbait articles or emotion. If there was a significant problem, my liability only insurance premiums would be higher for the Tesla compared to a non Tesla. But they are not.
- belter 6mo ago[dead]
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> my liability only insurance premiums would be higher for the Tesla compared to a non Tesla. But they are not You’re correct inasmuch as we have no evidence there is “a significant problem.” But if Tesla is hiding evidence, as this article suggests, that might just be because lawsuits are still gaining steam.
- lotsofpulp 6mo agoLiability insurance premiums would reflect higher risk of Tesla vehicles causing collisions, regardless if Tesla is at fault or if the driver is at fault. The insurance company still has to pay, which means the Tesla owners have to pay.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> Liability insurance premiums would reflect higher risk of Tesla vehicles causing collisions, regardless if Tesla is at fault or if the driver is at fault Why? They only pay out if you’re at fault. And if there aren’t final judgements in a deep pipeline of cases, premiums wouldn’t have a reason to adjust yet.
- chneu 6mo agoOr pushed beef that destroys the environment and gives people GI cancers while claiming the opposite.
- IAmBroom 6mo agoI don't recall any TV ads claiming beef cured GI cancers. Maybe you should change your channel.