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Do you usually start negotiations by publicly deriding your counterparty and state absurd demands?

by Swenrekcah 6mo ago

Arodex 6mo ago
"An idiot's idea of an intelligent person"
- analognoise 6mo ago
  A sheep’s idea of a wolf.
bko 6mo ago
I dont know. I guess that's one strategy. Im also not a billionaire and leader of the free world. So I can only assume there is some merit in this particular negotiation style if it landed him where he is.
- piva00 6mo ago
  That's a bit of an appeal to authority, no? It might have given results but it wasn't without cost, is it net-positive overall? This style doesn't build bridges, it's purely adversarial, diplomacy requires building bridges for long-term sustainability of relations.
  - bko 6mo ago
    How is it an appeal to authority? He wasn't appointed to his position in life through bloodline or familial connections. He made insane wealth through business dealings, much of it through negotiations with sharks. Then he convinced half of the country to vote for him with no political experience against a dynasty. Sure it's not my style and I don't quite understand how its effective, but to dismiss it outright as ineffective is naive.
    - mcphage 6mo ago
      > I don't quite understand how its effective It's the negotiation equivalent of rent-seeking, or parasitism. It requires deep relationships to have already been built, and it consumes those relationships in exchange for modest short term gain.
    - Swenrekcah 6mo ago
      Trump did not get where he is through negotiations or business success. In fact his business success was very limited until he got to political power. He got where he is by being one of the earliest influencers and “reality” TV show host. His bank credit was toast everywhere except at Deutche Bank which has been exposed as being a conduit for Russian money laundering.
    - x3ro 6mo ago
      > He wasn't appointed to his position in life through bloodline or familial connections. He made insane wealth through business dealings, much of it through negotiations with sharks. Uhm, no. > Donald actually received $413 million from Fred over the years [1], [2]: And as to whether he is any good at investing, he is literally worse than average S&P500 [3]. [1]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/donald-trump-received-a-ton-of-money-from-his-late-father-fred/ar-AA1PXJFr https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/donald-trump-received-... [2]: https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67 https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67 [3]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-official-trump-would-be-richer-if-he-had-just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-off...
    - JMiao 6mo ago
      you can actually look up his childhood on the web, no need to hallucinate
aaron695 6mo ago
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Do you usually start negotiations by publicly deriding your counterparty and state absurd demands?

Arodex 6mo ago

"An idiot's idea of an intelligent person"

analognoise 6mo ago
A sheep’s idea of a wolf.

bko 6mo ago

I dont know. I guess that's one strategy. Im also not a billionaire and leader of the free world. So I can only assume there is some merit in this particular negotiation style if it landed him where he is.

piva00 6mo ago
That's a bit of an appeal to authority, no? It might have given results but it wasn't without cost, is it net-positive overall? This style doesn't build bridges, it's purely adversarial, diplomacy requires building bridges for long-term sustainability of relations.
- bko 6mo ago
  How is it an appeal to authority? He wasn't appointed to his position in life through bloodline or familial connections. He made insane wealth through business dealings, much of it through negotiations with sharks. Then he convinced half of the country to vote for him with no political experience against a dynasty. Sure it's not my style and I don't quite understand how its effective, but to dismiss it outright as ineffective is naive.
  - mcphage 6mo ago
    > I don't quite understand how its effective It's the negotiation equivalent of rent-seeking, or parasitism. It requires deep relationships to have already been built, and it consumes those relationships in exchange for modest short term gain.
  - Swenrekcah 6mo ago
    Trump did not get where he is through negotiations or business success. In fact his business success was very limited until he got to political power. He got where he is by being one of the earliest influencers and “reality” TV show host. His bank credit was toast everywhere except at Deutche Bank which has been exposed as being a conduit for Russian money laundering.
  - x3ro 6mo ago
    > He wasn't appointed to his position in life through bloodline or familial connections. He made insane wealth through business dealings, much of it through negotiations with sharks. Uhm, no. > Donald actually received $413 million from Fred over the years [1], [2]: And as to whether he is any good at investing, he is literally worse than average S&P500 [3]. [1]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/donald-trump-received-a-ton-of-money-from-his-late-father-fred/ar-AA1PXJFr https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/donald-trump-received-... [2]: https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67 https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67 [3]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-official-trump-would-be-richer-if-he-had-just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-off...
  - JMiao 6mo ago
    you can actually look up his childhood on the web, no need to hallucinate

aaron695 6mo ago

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