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I think Powershell and .net coming to linux is very welcome because I can keep hosting stuff with what I believe is a saner platform, and Windows developers can

I think Powershell and .net coming to linux is very welcome because I can keep hosting stuff with what I believe is a saner platform, and Windows developers can still keep using the platform they prefer. It's a win-win. IMO .net is much better than Java, at least it was 10 years ago. So it's not like I don't understand them.

tracker1 6mo ago
I just don't like the verbosity of Powershell myself... For that matter, I've trended towards using TypeScript (via Deno) for my user scripts that need more than basic shell interactions. I can reference any repository modules directly, use a shebang in the top of the script with self/executable, and no install step. For that matter, deno in a shebang for an extensionless file now detects as a TypeScript file properly in VS Code. win-win-win. While being portable with a relatively small executable surface (deon executable only).
justsomehnguy 6mo ago
> I think Powershell and .net coming to linux is very welcome It was! I specifically talk here about a subset of people who was very ignorant but became very angry because... well, they are probably still write it as M$ so there is no point continue.
pjmlp 6mo ago
C# better than Java the language, yes. CLR is better on the polyglot approach, although Microsoft nowadays behaves as if C means C# and not Common, and ironically JVM seems to have a more vivid guest languages ecosystem nowadays. Any of Scala, Clojure, Kotlin, Groovy, seem to enjoy more activity than F#, VB or C++/CLI. There are plus on the JVM side that Microsoft will probably never care for. - A single vendor implementation, Microsoft no longer cares about ECMA - Following from being a single vendor, there aren't multiple GC, JIT and AOT approaches to chose from - Some of those implementations explore having most of the stack bootstraped instead of still being based on C and C++. - One of them being a compiler development framework, whereas Microsoft killed theirs (Project Phoenix) - Others offer real time GC, and embedded deployments in high critical computing environments, although less than 20 years ago, there are still three main vendors in this area - A mobile OS, after Microsoft botched theirs when it was around 10% market share in Europe already, and now they don't have a platform for younger generations Note that Java, .NET and C++ are my main toolbox tools, thus it isn't hating one over the other.

tracker1 6mo ago

I just don't like the verbosity of Powershell myself... For that matter, I've trended towards using TypeScript (via Deno) for my user scripts that need more than basic shell interactions. I can reference any repository modules directly, use a shebang in the top of the script with self/executable, and no install step. For that matter, deno in a shebang for an extensionless file now detects as a TypeScript file properly in VS Code. win-win-win. While being portable with a relatively small executable surface (deon executable only).

justsomehnguy 6mo ago

> I think Powershell and .net coming to linux is very welcome It was! I specifically talk here about a subset of people who was very ignorant but became very angry because... well, they are probably still write it as M$ so there is no point continue.

pjmlp 6mo ago

C# better than Java the language, yes. CLR is better on the polyglot approach, although Microsoft nowadays behaves as if C means C# and not Common, and ironically JVM seems to have a more vivid guest languages ecosystem nowadays. Any of Scala, Clojure, Kotlin, Groovy, seem to enjoy more activity than F#, VB or C++/CLI. There are plus on the JVM side that Microsoft will probably never care for. - A single vendor implementation, Microsoft no longer cares about ECMA - Following from being a single vendor, there aren't multiple GC, JIT and AOT approaches to chose from - Some of those implementations explore having most of the stack bootstraped instead of still being based on C and C++. - One of them being a compiler development framework, whereas Microsoft killed theirs (Project Phoenix) - Others offer real time GC, and embedded deployments in high critical computing environments, although less than 20 years ago, there are still three main vendors in this area - A mobile OS, after Microsoft botched theirs when it was around 10% market share in Europe already, and now they don't have a platform for younger generations Note that Java, .NET and C++ are my main toolbox tools, thus it isn't hating one over the other.