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What kind of consumer electronics can you build with HBM? That's the startup you should be founding...
by nostrademons 6mo ago
What kind of consumer electronics can you build with HBM? That's the startup you should be founding...
- nullsanity 6mo ago[dead]
- daemonologist 6mo agoAMD has built some consumer GPUs in the recent past with HBM - RX Vega and Radeon VII (although I assume not all "HBM" is created equal).
- christkv 6mo agoMy vega 56 still has 400gb/s of memory which is still insane for how old the card is.
- zdw 6mo agoAMD's Hawaii architecture had 320GB/s on a 512b GDDR5 bus in 2013. The Fiji XT architecture after it had 512GB/S on a 4096b HBM bus in 2015. The Vega architecture did have 400GB/s or so in 2017, which was a bit of a downgrade.
- hypercube33 6mo agoIsn't their APU also capable of doing HBM? There was an Intel AMD hybrid chip that used unified a while back too.
- TiredOfLife 6mo agoThat was not unified. It was just on same package. Functionally it was like if you had a dedicated gpu.
- CamperBob2 6mo agoHBM is just normal DDR RAM that's been packaged with (much) wider-than-usual data buses. That's where the high bandwidth comes from, not from high clock rates or any other innovation or improvement in core specifications. Very few applications other than GPUs need HBM.
- zamalek 6mo agoAnything where there's _at worst_ solder and traces between the compute and the memory. That's why you see it on GPUs (and Apple hardware). DRAMs advantage is modularity. At least as I understand it.
- PunchyHamster 6mo agoThey can just switch back to normal DRAM if HBM demand drops, you ain't getting it cheap just coz AI flops
- GarvielLoken 6mo agoI think the datacenters will simple be repurposed for hardware as a service, specially cloud gaming, sense it will be to expensive to buy a new computer anyway.