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Unfortunately the slopulist wing of the Democratic party now mostly favors magical tax-cut-and-programs electoral platforms. For example, all but two of the can

by jeffbee 6mo ago

Unfortunately the slopulist wing of the Democratic party now mostly favors magical tax-cut-and-programs electoral platforms. For example, all but two of the candidates for governor of California from the Democratic party have tax platforms similar or identical to those of the two Republicans in the race.

Forgeties79 6mo ago
“If we just do a slightly lighter version of exactly what our opponent does everyone will vote for us. Sure, it didn’t work in the past. Sure, most people don’t realize that the ACA was basically Republican policy. Sure, we will never get any credit if we are tough on the border. But this time it will definitely work.”
- ryandrake 6mo ago
  I long for an actual progressive Democrat party whose ambitions go beyond being the Light Beer version of Republicans.
  - Forgeties79 6mo ago
    Agreed but it’s on us to show up more than just every 4 years in the general, which unfortunately I find most critics don’t do (not accusing you of this). “Don’t vote, can’t complain” is reductionist BUT if you don’t vote every chance you can then it really holds true. Participate, folks! That candidate you like that “has no chance”? Go volunteer for their campaign! Make it possible! Primaries and local elections are often won on the margins. 1-5% changes, which are entirely possible, can change the course of a nation. This isn’t hyperbole, especially in a such hyper partisan times as these. Hell, you never know when your efforts might lead a president 5-10 years later.
lokar 6mo ago
Yeah, getting flashbacks to Clinton era Democratic politics. Adopt the core of the Republican position so you can get into power and then do some stuff around the edges.
- haberman 6mo ago
  Wait, didn't Clinton actually balance the budget? That gets props from me; no government since then has actually given Americans an honest picture of what it actually takes to run a balanced budget, which will require some combination of higher taxes and/or decreased spending.

by jeffbee 6mo ago

Forgeties79 6mo ago

“If we just do a slightly lighter version of exactly what our opponent does everyone will vote for us. Sure, it didn’t work in the past. Sure, most people don’t realize that the ACA was basically Republican policy. Sure, we will never get any credit if we are tough on the border. But this time it will definitely work.”

ryandrake 6mo ago
I long for an actual progressive Democrat party whose ambitions go beyond being the Light Beer version of Republicans.
- Forgeties79 6mo ago
  Agreed but it’s on us to show up more than just every 4 years in the general, which unfortunately I find most critics don’t do (not accusing you of this). “Don’t vote, can’t complain” is reductionist BUT if you don’t vote every chance you can then it really holds true. Participate, folks! That candidate you like that “has no chance”? Go volunteer for their campaign! Make it possible! Primaries and local elections are often won on the margins. 1-5% changes, which are entirely possible, can change the course of a nation. This isn’t hyperbole, especially in a such hyper partisan times as these. Hell, you never know when your efforts might lead a president 5-10 years later.

lokar 6mo ago

Yeah, getting flashbacks to Clinton era Democratic politics. Adopt the core of the Republican position so you can get into power and then do some stuff around the edges.

haberman 6mo ago
Wait, didn't Clinton actually balance the budget? That gets props from me; no government since then has actually given Americans an honest picture of what it actually takes to run a balanced budget, which will require some combination of higher taxes and/or decreased spending.