Agree it's good. I used to program with these tools because that's all I had and when I had better tools I moved onto to them. We also used to build our own bet

Agree it's good. I used to program with these tools because that's all I had and when I had better tools I moved onto to them. We also used to build our own better tooling. When I built my first guitar I had very few tools so I used what I had since I'm cheap ;) Then I bought better tools and it made my life a lot easier. But I got some lessons from the experience. Mostly though it was a pain that's solved by better tooling.