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Kdenlive being crash prone is a known thing, but for the parent to say the devs don't care goes too far.

by MegaDeKay 6mo ago

coldtea 6mo ago
Would it be any better if they cared but still couldn't tame them in a 25 year old project?
- array_key_first 6mo ago
  Yes, it's complex software that has to interact very closely with the hardware and it's written in C++. Those aren't excuses, but they are explanations. The competition from Adobe crashes a lot, too. It's not necessarily a competence or money thing. Also, the windows taskbar in windows 11 crashes a couple times a day for me. And Microsoft is one of the biggest tech companies in the world. And, I'm assuming, very talented engineers worked on that taskbar.
  - ahartmetz 6mo ago
    Some very talented engineers work at Microsoft, that much is clear. Whether any of them work on the new parts of Windows 11 is less clear...
    - coldtea 6mo ago
      AI will vibecode it to Windows Vista quality!
      - kouosi 6mo ago
        I don't think they vibecode the core of windows though. From what I heard particularly (from osdev community) the core of windows is really good and well structured.
      - kjuginonohih 6mo ago
        So it will become… good? “Vista bad” comments on a forum supposedly frequented mostly by IT people is just plain ridiculous. If you think “Vista bad, 7 good” then you clearly need to reevaluate your understanding of computer technology.
      - redsocksfan45 6mo ago
        [dead]
- MegaDeKay 6mo ago
  You make it sound like the same bugs have been there for 25 years. That again isn't fair given that many, many, many new features have been added to the project since its inception in 2002. They are also somewhat at the mercy of the MLT framework that they depend on for a lot of the heavy lifting. And they do fix crash bugs. All the time. You can see that in the announcements they put out after each release. I think the general perception is that it is indeed becoming more robust as time goes on as new developers have come on board to help. The project is gaining momentum that it hadn't really had before.
CyberDildonics 6mo ago
If they cared the issue wouldn't have gone on for a decade or more.

Kdenlive being crash prone is a known thing, but for the parent to say the devs don't care goes too far.

coldtea 6mo ago

Would it be any better if they cared but still couldn't tame them in a 25 year old project?

array_key_first 6mo ago
Yes, it's complex software that has to interact very closely with the hardware and it's written in C++. Those aren't excuses, but they are explanations. The competition from Adobe crashes a lot, too. It's not necessarily a competence or money thing. Also, the windows taskbar in windows 11 crashes a couple times a day for me. And Microsoft is one of the biggest tech companies in the world. And, I'm assuming, very talented engineers worked on that taskbar.
- ahartmetz 6mo ago
  Some very talented engineers work at Microsoft, that much is clear. Whether any of them work on the new parts of Windows 11 is less clear...
  - coldtea 6mo ago
    AI will vibecode it to Windows Vista quality!
    - kouosi 6mo ago
      I don't think they vibecode the core of windows though. From what I heard particularly (from osdev community) the core of windows is really good and well structured.
    - kjuginonohih 6mo ago
      So it will become… good? “Vista bad” comments on a forum supposedly frequented mostly by IT people is just plain ridiculous. If you think “Vista bad, 7 good” then you clearly need to reevaluate your understanding of computer technology.
    - redsocksfan45 6mo ago
      [dead]
MegaDeKay 6mo ago
You make it sound like the same bugs have been there for 25 years. That again isn't fair given that many, many, many new features have been added to the project since its inception in 2002. They are also somewhat at the mercy of the MLT framework that they depend on for a lot of the heavy lifting. And they do fix crash bugs. All the time. You can see that in the announcements they put out after each release. I think the general perception is that it is indeed becoming more robust as time goes on as new developers have come on board to help. The project is gaining momentum that it hadn't really had before.

CyberDildonics 6mo ago

If they cared the issue wouldn't have gone on for a decade or more.