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When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be s

When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity

DaveFr 6mo ago
??? The US gives billions in aid to Jordan and Egypt, who torture and kill dissident civilians. And, it's not a genocide to lose a war you started.
SilverElfin 6mo ago
How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.
- 22122 6mo ago
  islam wasn't the only religion to have an empire. and islam spread through voluntary conversion, for hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion. also no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today.
  - SilverElfin 6mo ago
    > islam spread through voluntary conversion False. > hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion Even if this was true, which I dispute, Islam imposes all sorts of methods to oppress other religions. Like special taxes for those who aren’t Muslims. > no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today And now these countries have inhumane systems like sharia courts.
    - basilgohar 6mo ago
      You can dispute but you're still wrong. The majority of people under Islamic rule historically were non-Muslims but were afforded far greater rights than other societies, such as freedom or worship, protection, the right to their own laws, and the right to Islam's laws as well if they wanted. And yes, they were taxed. Muslims paid zakat, non-Muslims paid jizyah. We can't make non-Muslims pay a religious tax, so they paid a different one. You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Also, what you said about Malaysia and Indonesia is bizarrely bad and incorrect. It's not worth replying to you, you just spew lies like a Zionist. Oh wait...
      - SilverElfin 6mo ago
        Are you seriously trying to revise taxation of other religions into an “alternative” when it clearly was meant to discriminate and oppress them? The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them. You are spreading revisionist misinformation, but it’s also so obvious and easy to disprove with a quick search. Why even try to spin it this way?
        khaledh 6mo ago
        > The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them Please quote this part from the Quran. I'd like to learn more.
        goldfishgold 6mo ago
        “Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.“ https://quran.com/9/29?translations=131%2C20 https://quran.com/9/29?translations=131%2C20
        6mo ago
- olivermuty 6mo ago
  Yeah christians would never go crusading like that! Hmmm, I wonder where the word «crusade» comes from though
  - SilverElfin 6mo ago
    Who said anything to defend Christianity? Are you really using it to justify Islam calling for violence against people with other beliefs?
- gizzlon 6mo ago
  The US this week invoked God when bombing people Of course, Iran does to, but let's not pretend everything would be peaceful without Islam
- catlover76 6mo ago
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rexpop 6mo ago
Several Muslim-majority countries have received billions in U.S. aid for decades, not just recently. The clearest examples are Egypt, Jordan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and, in humanitarian years, Syria and Yemen. Hell, Pakistan got more than $19 billion in U.S. aid from 2002–2010, plus a $7.5 billion non-military package over five years, and Afghanistan got more than $109 billion total through USAID. Egypt gets about $2 billion a year on average since 1979, mostly military aid.

DaveFr 6mo ago

??? The US gives billions in aid to Jordan and Egypt, who torture and kill dissident civilians. And, it's not a genocide to lose a war you started.

SilverElfin 6mo ago

How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.

22122 6mo ago
islam wasn't the only religion to have an empire. and islam spread through voluntary conversion, for hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion. also no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today.
- SilverElfin 6mo ago
  > islam spread through voluntary conversion False. > hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion Even if this was true, which I dispute, Islam imposes all sorts of methods to oppress other religions. Like special taxes for those who aren’t Muslims. > no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today And now these countries have inhumane systems like sharia courts.
  - basilgohar 6mo ago
    You can dispute but you're still wrong. The majority of people under Islamic rule historically were non-Muslims but were afforded far greater rights than other societies, such as freedom or worship, protection, the right to their own laws, and the right to Islam's laws as well if they wanted. And yes, they were taxed. Muslims paid zakat, non-Muslims paid jizyah. We can't make non-Muslims pay a religious tax, so they paid a different one. You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Also, what you said about Malaysia and Indonesia is bizarrely bad and incorrect. It's not worth replying to you, you just spew lies like a Zionist. Oh wait...
    - SilverElfin 6mo ago
      Are you seriously trying to revise taxation of other religions into an “alternative” when it clearly was meant to discriminate and oppress them? The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them. You are spreading revisionist misinformation, but it’s also so obvious and easy to disprove with a quick search. Why even try to spin it this way?
      - khaledh 6mo ago
        > The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them Please quote this part from the Quran. I'd like to learn more.
        goldfishgold 6mo ago
        “Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.“ https://quran.com/9/29?translations=131%2C20 https://quran.com/9/29?translations=131%2C20
        6mo ago
olivermuty 6mo ago
Yeah christians would never go crusading like that! Hmmm, I wonder where the word «crusade» comes from though
- SilverElfin 6mo ago
  Who said anything to defend Christianity? Are you really using it to justify Islam calling for violence against people with other beliefs?
gizzlon 6mo ago
The US this week invoked God when bombing people Of course, Iran does to, but let's not pretend everything would be peaceful without Islam
catlover76 6mo ago
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rexpop 6mo ago

Several Muslim-majority countries have received billions in U.S. aid for decades, not just recently. The clearest examples are Egypt, Jordan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and, in humanitarian years, Syria and Yemen. Hell, Pakistan got more than $19 billion in U.S. aid from 2002–2010, plus a $7.5 billion non-military package over five years, and Afghanistan got more than $109 billion total through USAID. Egypt gets about $2 billion a year on average since 1979, mostly military aid.