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Is it possible to trace this stuff back to individuals? Would love AI to do that.

by bix6 6mo ago

Grosvenor 6mo ago
Yes, if the SEC decides to they can trace it back to specific orders. Will the SEC decide to?
- an0malous 6mo ago
  The orders are coming from… inside the house??
- deleted 6mo ago
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- walletdrainer 6mo ago
  CFTC, SEC does not regulate commodities but securities.
  - yieldcrv 6mo ago
    SEC could find out because of the ETFs that trade the same underlying assets
Jimmc414 6mo ago
Since it's commodities it would be the CFTC, but it would be trivial since brokers are required by law to collect KYC information on all futures trades and anyone holding positions above the Large Trader Reporting threshold (a few hundred contracts for crude) is already disclosed to the CFTC by name. 7,990 lots of Brent in a one minute window is enormously above that threshold.
jackyinger 6mo ago
I would love it if real people did that, and then acted on what they found with moral integrity.
JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
> Is it possible to trace this stuff back to individuals? Yes, depending where the trades were based and their market participants' KYC rigor. As the article mentions, the CFTC "is examining a series of trades in oil futures placed shortly before major shifts in President Donald Trump's Iran war policy" [1]. If the "lots of Brent crude futures" the article mentioned traded on the Intercontinental Exchange [2], when we can almost certainly trace it back to at least some individuals. [1] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-probes-suspicious-oil-trades-made-before-trump-iran-pivots-source-says-2026-04-15/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-probes-suspicious... [2] https://www.ice.com/products/219/Brent-Crude-Futures/data https://www.ice.com/products/219/Brent-Crude-Futures/data
watwut 6mo ago
Why AI? You want tracker that dont hallucinate. But, you also need DOJ that prosecutes rich guy white crime, so.
ulfw 6mo ago
Would love human with brain to do that.
MiguelX413 6mo ago
Why would AI be part of that process?

Is it possible to trace this stuff back to individuals? Would love AI to do that.

by bix6 6mo ago

Is it possible to trace this stuff back to individuals? Would love AI to do that.

Grosvenor 6mo ago

Yes, if the SEC decides to they can trace it back to specific orders. Will the SEC decide to?

an0malous 6mo ago
The orders are coming from… inside the house??
deleted 6mo ago
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walletdrainer 6mo ago
CFTC, SEC does not regulate commodities but securities.
- yieldcrv 6mo ago
  SEC could find out because of the ETFs that trade the same underlying assets

Jimmc414 6mo ago

Since it's commodities it would be the CFTC, but it would be trivial since brokers are required by law to collect KYC information on all futures trades and anyone holding positions above the Large Trader Reporting threshold (a few hundred contracts for crude) is already disclosed to the CFTC by name. 7,990 lots of Brent in a one minute window is enormously above that threshold.

jackyinger 6mo ago

I would love it if real people did that, and then acted on what they found with moral integrity.

JumpCrisscross 6mo ago

> Is it possible to trace this stuff back to individuals? Yes, depending where the trades were based and their market participants' KYC rigor. As the article mentions, the CFTC "is examining a series of trades in oil futures placed shortly before major shifts in President Donald Trump's Iran war policy" [1]. If the "lots of Brent crude futures" the article mentioned traded on the Intercontinental Exchange [2], when we can almost certainly trace it back to at least some individuals. [1] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-probes-suspicious-oil-trades-made-before-trump-iran-pivots-source-says-2026-04-15/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-probes-suspicious... [2] https://www.ice.com/products/219/Brent-Crude-Futures/data https://www.ice.com/products/219/Brent-Crude-Futures/data

watwut 6mo ago

Why AI? You want tracker that dont hallucinate. But, you also need DOJ that prosecutes rich guy white crime, so.

ulfw 6mo ago

Would love human with brain to do that.

MiguelX413 6mo ago

Why would AI be part of that process?