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Nobody says this about any Islamic country
by DaveFr 6mo ago
Nobody says this about any Islamic country
- 4MOAisgoodenuf 6mo agoWhen an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity
- DaveFr 6mo ago??? The US gives billions in aid to Jordan and Egypt, who torture and kill dissident civilians. And, it's not a genocide to lose a war you started.
- SilverElfin 6mo agoHow do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.
- 22122 6mo agoislam wasn't the only religion to have an empire. and islam spread through voluntary conversion, for hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion. also no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today.
- SilverElfin 6mo ago> islam spread through voluntary conversion False. > hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion Even if this was true, which I dispute, Islam imposes all sorts of methods to oppress other religions. Like special taxes for those who aren’t Muslims. > no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today And now these countries have inhumane systems like sharia courts.
- basilgohar 6mo agoYou can dispute but you're still wrong. The majority of people under Islamic rule historically were non-Muslims but were afforded far greater rights than other societies, such as freedom or worship, protection, the right to their own laws, and the right to Islam's laws as well if they wanted. And yes, they were taxed. Muslims paid zakat, non-Muslims paid jizyah. We can't make non-Muslims pay a religious tax, so they paid a different one. You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Also, what you said about Malaysia and Indonesia is bizarrely bad and incorrect. It's not worth replying to you, you just spew lies like a Zionist. Oh wait...
- SilverElfin 6mo agoAre you seriously trying to revise taxation of other religions into an “alternative” when it clearly was meant to discriminate and oppress them? The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them. You are spreading revisionist misinformation, but it’s also so obvious and easy to disprove with a quick search. Why even try to spin it this way?
- khaledh 6mo ago> The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them Please quote this part from the Quran. I'd like to learn more.
- goldfishgold 6mo ago“Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.“ https://quran.com/9/29?translations=131%2C20 https://quran.com/9/29?translations=131%2C20
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- olivermuty 6mo agoYeah christians would never go crusading like that! Hmmm, I wonder where the word «crusade» comes from though
- SilverElfin 6mo agoWho said anything to defend Christianity? Are you really using it to justify Islam calling for violence against people with other beliefs?
- gizzlon 6mo agoThe US this week invoked God when bombing people Of course, Iran does to, but let's not pretend everything would be peaceful without Islam
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- rexpop 6mo agoSeveral Muslim-majority countries have received billions in U.S. aid for decades, not just recently. The clearest examples are Egypt, Jordan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and, in humanitarian years, Syria and Yemen. Hell, Pakistan got more than $19 billion in U.S. aid from 2002–2010, plus a $7.5 billion non-military package over five years, and Afghanistan got more than $109 billion total through USAID. Egypt gets about $2 billion a year on average since 1979, mostly military aid.
- SilverElfin 6mo agoYep, and this is the obvious dishonesty of the people who single out Israel. It’s one country with a Jewish culture, where non-Jewish people also prosper in large numbers. But there are MANY officially Islamic nations where there is a state religion, where laws and religion are mixed together, and where violence/oppression of minorities is normalized and welcomed. Not a single pro-Gaza or anti-Israel activist will acknowledge this. It’s dishonest. Israel is much more egalitarian and frankly, civilized.
- nielsbot 6mo agoWhat’s dishonest is your racist defense of a murderous and genocidal country that cynically uses Judaism as a shield for war crimes. You should really think deeply about how you’re conflating the Zionist state with the Jewish people… not sure a lot of them are in board with your project. There is no world in which a Jewish-supremacist state is righteous. As for equal rights, it is to laugh. Israel is an apartheid state. Ask any expert in the subject. Let’s talk about the racist death-penalty-for-Palestinians law that just passed to Ben Gvir drinking champagne and to celebratory prayers in the Knesset. Or what about the fact that gay people cannot legally marry? Or that protesting the genocide gets you brutally arrested. Not to mention the ghetto that Israel has turned Gaza into. (shame on the Zionists!) What about no right of return to the people who lived on the land that Israel stole and continues to steal? (let me guess: all in self defense!) It goes on and on. Israel is indefensible. It should be dismantled.
- SilverElfin 6mo agoYour comment is an example of that dishonesty, since you’re ignoring all the Islamic supremacist states while stating your opinion that Israel is supremacist. Something like 20% of Israel’s population are Muslims, and they’re prospering there, so you can’t call it supremacist. On the other hand, officially Islamic nations are explicitly supremacist. They have state religions and laws against blasphemy and rampant systemic discrimination.
- aibrahem 6mo ago
- happymellon 6mo agoEvertone said this about Daesh.
- nielsbot 6mo agoSure they do. But Zionists are the ones that profess that a Jewish-supremacist state is a good idea.
- basilgohar 6mo agoThere are no Islamic countries. All Muslim-majority countries remain power structures intended to maintain the power of the powerful and use Islam as part of their means to do so. To call them otherwise or label them Islamic is fruitless. We do the same for Israel. They claim Judiasm but we know they do not represent it. The same for all so-called Islamic countries.