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From the beginning, the founders of the Zionist movement were completely on board with the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinians from their lands to e
by aibrahem 6mo ago
From the beginning, the founders of the Zionist movement were completely on board with the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinians from their lands to establish the Israeli state.
- SilverElfin 6mo ago[flagged]
- wqaatwt 6mo ago> Palestinians are not indigenous What does that even mean? Just because they converted (or were forced) to another religion? Even the Hebrew recognizes there were plenty of other people living in territory of what is now modern Israel and that the Hebrews violently subjugated quite a few of them. > the continuation of Canaanite culture Well culturally they became mostly European, Arab etc. depending on where they lived.
- happymellon 6mo agoUnited States citizens are not indigenous to the region. Native Americans are, and the continuation of the indinginous peoples culture. People who have taken over the area and now call themselves "American" are just laying claim by making up a new identity.
- SilverElfin 6mo agoI agree.
- lemontheme 6mo agoImagine having access to information about thousands of years of human history, with all its big migrations, the ebbs and flows of civilizations, religions and empires, and still actually thinking one people in particular have some natural claim to a stretch of land. What if instead we respected state sovereignty and international law for the betterment of all instead of continually stirring up shit to benefit of a few powerful figures?
- C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 6mo agoLet's confirm your claim through DNA tests to establish ancestry of Israelis and Palestinians. Oh, they're banned in Israel?! Why would they possibly be banned?? Could it be that...
- pseudohadamard 6mo agoFriend of mine was invited to a wedding of Jewish friends, and commented to them how impressed she was that they'd invited all their Arab friends along to the wedding as well (she was being sincere, not sarcastic). The conversation got rather chilly after that...
- catlover76 6mo ago[dead]
- jon_adler 6mo agoDNA tests aren’t banned in Israel.
- C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 6mo agoIf that's true, then great! Then we can do mass ancestry tests to establish the subpopulation that is indigenous to the region of historic Palestine. Let's do it.
- aibrahem 6mo agoIt’s extremely regulated, especially conducting research into the ancestry of Israelis. Which makes you question the legitimacy of the research coming out of Israel about this topic, Not to mention that respected Israeli researchers who colored outside of the party line were reprimanded or called self-hating Jews.
- basilgohar 6mo ago[flagged]
- jon_adler 6mo agoThis isn’t accurate. The majority of Jews in Israel are Mizrahi. The vast majority of them left the Muslim-majority countries during the Arab–Israeli conflict, in what is known as the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries.
- aibrahem 6mo ago[flagged]
- tptacek 6mo agoIt is not even remotely the case that scholars accept that the expulsion of Jewish people from MENA was orchestrated by the new state of Israel. What's especially aggravating about this trope is how useless it is in a discussion about today. It's not true, but if it were, what would that matter? You're still talking about Moroccans, Tunisians, Yemenis, and Iraqis who are not temporarily-embarrassed Europeans with a free pass to move back to where they came from. A grandparent comment made the claim that most Israelis are from "Europe, Russia, pretty much anywhere but the middle east". That claim is luridly false. Why mitigate such a clownish argument? Acknowledge it's wrong and move on; don't build it into your own argument.
- _DeadFred_ 6mo agoGod this website loves bs conspiracy theory if it applies to jews. But we couldn't even talk about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.