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Maybe Elon can argue that no reasonable person would have taken his FSD promises seriously.

by codechicago277 6mo ago

laweijfmvo 6mo ago
it worked for fox news!
- SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
  And MSNBC in court.
  - daveguy 6mo ago
    Thank Fox for paving the way for inserting your opinion in news. Did you not know that Fox did it in court first?
    - SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
      I offered no opinion.
      - daveguy 6mo ago
        I wasn't talking about anything related to your opinions. I was pointing out that Fox had to claim "entertainment" in court for their opinion commentators long before MSNBC. Because you disingenuously implied that MSNBC was somehow the opinion news that had to admit in court their coverage included opinions. In case you forgot you replied to "It worked for fox news [claiming opinion]" with "And MSNBC in court." Since you clearly misread or purposely misconstrued my statement, let me rephrase: "Thank Fox for paving the way for inserting ones opinion in news. Did you not know that Fox had to do it in court first?"
        VertanaNinjai 6mo ago
        You seem to be waging a war of words with someone who merely said “also these guys did it too”.
        daveguy 6mo ago
        You seem to be fair and balanced, just like your buddy.
Veserv 6mo ago
Their lawyers already did that and got it ruled that Tesla’s statements are unbelievable lies and thus Tesla is not liable for deceiving customers or the public. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2023cv00869/408922/77/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/califor... On page 16, the judge states that the defendants, Tesla, argued: “Defendants also assert that several Safety Statements are corporate puffery. For example, statements that safety is “paramount” (FAC ¶ 325), Tesla cars are “absurdly safe” (id.), autopilot is “superhuman” (FAC ¶ 337), and “we want to get to as close to perfection as possible” (FAC ¶ 363). Mot. at 19.”
- WA 6mo ago
  Not a lawyer, but pretty sure shit like that doesn’t fly in the EU.

Maybe Elon can argue that no reasonable person would have taken his FSD promises seriously.

laweijfmvo 6mo ago

it worked for fox news!

SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
And MSNBC in court.
- daveguy 6mo ago
  Thank Fox for paving the way for inserting your opinion in news. Did you not know that Fox did it in court first?
  - SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
    I offered no opinion.
    - daveguy 6mo ago
      I wasn't talking about anything related to your opinions. I was pointing out that Fox had to claim "entertainment" in court for their opinion commentators long before MSNBC. Because you disingenuously implied that MSNBC was somehow the opinion news that had to admit in court their coverage included opinions. In case you forgot you replied to "It worked for fox news [claiming opinion]" with "And MSNBC in court." Since you clearly misread or purposely misconstrued my statement, let me rephrase: "Thank Fox for paving the way for inserting ones opinion in news. Did you not know that Fox had to do it in court first?"
      - VertanaNinjai 6mo ago
        You seem to be waging a war of words with someone who merely said “also these guys did it too”.
        daveguy 6mo ago
        You seem to be fair and balanced, just like your buddy.

Veserv 6mo ago

Their lawyers already did that and got it ruled that Tesla’s statements are unbelievable lies and thus Tesla is not liable for deceiving customers or the public. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2023cv00869/408922/77/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/califor... On page 16, the judge states that the defendants, Tesla, argued: “Defendants also assert that several Safety Statements are corporate puffery. For example, statements that safety is “paramount” (FAC ¶ 325), Tesla cars are “absurdly safe” (id.), autopilot is “superhuman” (FAC ¶ 337), and “we want to get to as close to perfection as possible” (FAC ¶ 363). Mot. at 19.”

WA 6mo ago
Not a lawyer, but pretty sure shit like that doesn’t fly in the EU.