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That’s not even remotely true and is a trite dismissal of legitimate criticism. Further, even though this might be an exciting concept, when put in the context

That’s not even remotely true and is a trite dismissal of legitimate criticism. Further, even though this might be an exciting concept, when put in the context of the massive budget cuts to nasa specifically it’s hard to fully celebrate what might be more a PR stunt than a meaningful commitment to science and exploration.

LorenDB 6mo ago
I don't think Jared Isaacman is interested in PR stunts. He actually seems to care about the science and exploration parts of NASA. Actually, he seems to care about all of NASA.
- ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
  Isaacman definitely did not pass up his golden opportunity on Pesach to light the most epic menorah the world has ever seen!
- threetonesun 6mo ago
  The $20 billion dollar moon base didn't seem like an announcement grounded in reality, although maybe that was less a PR stunt than the fact that NASA must (literally) shoot for the moon to stay politically relevant.
  - esseph 6mo ago
    > The $20 billion dollar moon base didn't seem like an announcement grounded in reality While I can't comment on the cost per say, there are both military and capitalistic reasons for the race to the moon.
    - bakies 6mo ago
      is there?
      - esseph 6mo ago
        - Deep space surveillance - Logistics Hub - "Get there quickly and set legal precedent" - Resource extraction (helium-3, gold, platinum, etc) - If moon dust can be converted to oxygen reliably, the first company or country to set up shop on the moon can sell that service to countries and commercial entities. - Unique manufacturing and science activities because of the low gravity - "Space Tourism"
partiallypro 6mo ago
I read enough HN to know what it is -absolutely- true. HN comments, including this thread, often just read like BlueSky screeds half the time the US, US government or Sam Altman/Elon Musk/etc are mentioned. They all deserve criticism, but when that's all a thread turns into when these items come up, well the discussion becomes very hollow and partisan really quickly.
- arikrahman 6mo ago
  There are users or bots that post political headlines on here with an obvious one-sided bias and do it to farm points, similar to Reddit. It'd be nice to have an impartial forum but it always seems to devolve into an echo chamber.
  - esseph 6mo ago
    > There are users or bots that post political headlines on here with an obvious one-sided bias So, humans that are extremely upset with the current state of things. > and do it to farm points I'm sure some do, but have you seen how many people across the US have been having protests? People are pissed. I'm pretty sure your analysis of the motivations would not at all be accurate with such a blanket statement.
    - arikrahman 6mo ago
      Your statement that it's humans and dismissing botted activity is a blanket statement, whereas I never used absolute language. If it's a human getting up and rushing to to write about promoted ragebait content devolving a forum into an echo chamber, of course someone takes the bait and lists grievances in hysterical language unsolicited. Such emotionality is totally uncalled for on a tech forum, and proves my point.
      - esseph 6mo ago
        > Such emotionality is totally uncalled for on a tech forum Only when the robots fully take over. It's one of many things that separate us from the machines. Dismissing emotions is dismissing humanity.

LorenDB 6mo ago

I don't think Jared Isaacman is interested in PR stunts. He actually seems to care about the science and exploration parts of NASA. Actually, he seems to care about all of NASA.

ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
Isaacman definitely did not pass up his golden opportunity on Pesach to light the most epic menorah the world has ever seen!
threetonesun 6mo ago
The $20 billion dollar moon base didn't seem like an announcement grounded in reality, although maybe that was less a PR stunt than the fact that NASA must (literally) shoot for the moon to stay politically relevant.
- esseph 6mo ago
  > The $20 billion dollar moon base didn't seem like an announcement grounded in reality While I can't comment on the cost per say, there are both military and capitalistic reasons for the race to the moon.
  - bakies 6mo ago
    is there?
    - esseph 6mo ago
      - Deep space surveillance - Logistics Hub - "Get there quickly and set legal precedent" - Resource extraction (helium-3, gold, platinum, etc) - If moon dust can be converted to oxygen reliably, the first company or country to set up shop on the moon can sell that service to countries and commercial entities. - Unique manufacturing and science activities because of the low gravity - "Space Tourism"

partiallypro 6mo ago

I read enough HN to know what it is -absolutely- true. HN comments, including this thread, often just read like BlueSky screeds half the time the US, US government or Sam Altman/Elon Musk/etc are mentioned. They all deserve criticism, but when that's all a thread turns into when these items come up, well the discussion becomes very hollow and partisan really quickly.

arikrahman 6mo ago
There are users or bots that post political headlines on here with an obvious one-sided bias and do it to farm points, similar to Reddit. It'd be nice to have an impartial forum but it always seems to devolve into an echo chamber.
- esseph 6mo ago
  > There are users or bots that post political headlines on here with an obvious one-sided bias So, humans that are extremely upset with the current state of things. > and do it to farm points I'm sure some do, but have you seen how many people across the US have been having protests? People are pissed. I'm pretty sure your analysis of the motivations would not at all be accurate with such a blanket statement.
  - arikrahman 6mo ago
    Your statement that it's humans and dismissing botted activity is a blanket statement, whereas I never used absolute language. If it's a human getting up and rushing to to write about promoted ragebait content devolving a forum into an echo chamber, of course someone takes the bait and lists grievances in hysterical language unsolicited. Such emotionality is totally uncalled for on a tech forum, and proves my point.
    - esseph 6mo ago
      > Such emotionality is totally uncalled for on a tech forum Only when the robots fully take over. It's one of many things that separate us from the machines. Dismissing emotions is dismissing humanity.