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Just yesterday I was happy to have gotten my weekly limit reset [1]. And although I've been doing a lot of mockup work (so a lot of HTML getting written), I thi

by atonse 6mo ago

Just yesterday I was happy to have gotten my weekly limit reset [1]. And although I've been doing a lot of mockup work (so a lot of HTML getting written), I think the 1M token stuff is absolutely eating up tokens like CRAZY. I'm already at 27% of my weekly limit in ONE DAY. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47799256 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47799256

aray07 6mo ago
yeah similar for me - it uses a bunch more tokens and I haven’t been able to tell the ROI in terms of better instruction following it seems to hallucinate a bit more (anecdotal)
- titaniumtown 6mo ago
  I had it hallucinate a tool that didn't exist, it was very frustrating!
  - dminik 6mo ago
    Anthropic intruduces fake tool calls to prevent distillation of their models. Others still distill. Anthropic distils third party models. Claude now hallucinates tools. Brilliant.
jabart 6mo ago
I'm seeing the opposite. With Opus 4.7 and xhigh, I'm seeing less session usage , it's moving faster, and my weekly usage is not moving that much on a Team Pro account.
cbm-vic-20 6mo ago
Four day workweek!
sreekanth850 6mo ago
Iam at 22%, just two task. A bug fixing and a Scalar integration.
CharlesW 6mo ago
> I'm already at 27% of my weekly limit in ONE DAY. Ouch, that's very different than experience. What effort level? Are you careful to avoid pushing session context use beyond 350k or so (assuming 1m context)?
- JimmaDaRustla 6mo ago
  I'm mind blown people are complaining about token consumption and not communicating what thinking level they're using - if cost is a concern and you're paying any attention, you'd be starting with medium and seeing if you can get better results with less tokens. Every person complaining about token usage seem to have no methodology - probably using max and completely oblivious.
  - AndyNemmity 6mo ago
    It's unsurprising when this is the first day that tokens have been crazy like this. All of us doing crazy agentic stuff were fine on max before this. Now with Opus 4.7, we're no longer fine, and troubleshooting, and working through options.
    - JimmaDaRustla 6mo ago
      > were fine on max before this Ya...you may be who I'm talking about though (if you're speaking from experience). If your methodology is "I used 4.6 max, so I'm going to try 4.7 max" this is fully on you - 4.7 max is not equivalent to 4.6 max, you want 4.7 xhigh. From their docs: max: Max effort can deliver performance gains in some use cases, but may show diminishing returns from increased token usage. This setting can also sometimes be prone to overthinking. We recommend testing max effort for intelligence-demanding tasks. xhigh (new): Extra high effort is the best setting for most coding and agentic use cases.
      - AndyNemmity 6mo ago
        Sorry, in that case I misunderstood max to mean the subscription, max 20. I am on xhigh.
AndyNemmity 6mo ago
I'm at 35% :(
richstokes 6mo ago
My personal Claude sub (Pro), I can burn through my limit in a couple of hours when using Opus. It's borderline unusable unless you're willing to pay for extended usage or artificially slow yourself down.
- tabbott 6mo ago
  To me, it seems like the Pro tier is priced for using Sonnet a lot or Opus a little, and Max for using Opus a lot. So that seems about what you should expect.

by atonse 6mo ago

aray07 6mo ago

yeah similar for me - it uses a bunch more tokens and I haven’t been able to tell the ROI in terms of better instruction following it seems to hallucinate a bit more (anecdotal)

titaniumtown 6mo ago
I had it hallucinate a tool that didn't exist, it was very frustrating!
- dminik 6mo ago
  Anthropic intruduces fake tool calls to prevent distillation of their models. Others still distill. Anthropic distils third party models. Claude now hallucinates tools. Brilliant.

jabart 6mo ago

I'm seeing the opposite. With Opus 4.7 and xhigh, I'm seeing less session usage , it's moving faster, and my weekly usage is not moving that much on a Team Pro account.

cbm-vic-20 6mo ago

Four day workweek!

sreekanth850 6mo ago

Iam at 22%, just two task. A bug fixing and a Scalar integration.

CharlesW 6mo ago

> I'm already at 27% of my weekly limit in ONE DAY. Ouch, that's very different than experience. What effort level? Are you careful to avoid pushing session context use beyond 350k or so (assuming 1m context)?

JimmaDaRustla 6mo ago
I'm mind blown people are complaining about token consumption and not communicating what thinking level they're using - if cost is a concern and you're paying any attention, you'd be starting with medium and seeing if you can get better results with less tokens. Every person complaining about token usage seem to have no methodology - probably using max and completely oblivious.
- AndyNemmity 6mo ago
  It's unsurprising when this is the first day that tokens have been crazy like this. All of us doing crazy agentic stuff were fine on max before this. Now with Opus 4.7, we're no longer fine, and troubleshooting, and working through options.
  - JimmaDaRustla 6mo ago
    > were fine on max before this Ya...you may be who I'm talking about though (if you're speaking from experience). If your methodology is "I used 4.6 max, so I'm going to try 4.7 max" this is fully on you - 4.7 max is not equivalent to 4.6 max, you want 4.7 xhigh. From their docs: max: Max effort can deliver performance gains in some use cases, but may show diminishing returns from increased token usage. This setting can also sometimes be prone to overthinking. We recommend testing max effort for intelligence-demanding tasks. xhigh (new): Extra high effort is the best setting for most coding and agentic use cases.
    - AndyNemmity 6mo ago
      Sorry, in that case I misunderstood max to mean the subscription, max 20. I am on xhigh.

AndyNemmity 6mo ago

I'm at 35% :(

richstokes 6mo ago

My personal Claude sub (Pro), I can burn through my limit in a couple of hours when using Opus. It's borderline unusable unless you're willing to pay for extended usage or artificially slow yourself down.

tabbott 6mo ago
To me, it seems like the Pro tier is priced for using Sonnet a lot or Opus a little, and Max for using Opus a lot. So that seems about what you should expect.