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12+ hours a day regularly? What a toxic workplace :/

Sol- 6mo ago
They are all very wealthy, or are about to be at the IPO. Seems like a worthwhile tradeoff. And money aside, it is certainly one of the most exciting companies in the world to work for.
- Noumenon72 6mo ago
  It's a horseshoe where the worst companies make you work 12 hours and the best companies make you want to work 12 hours.
- namanyayg 6mo ago
  Exactly the engineers I've talked to are all so EXCITED
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H8crilA 6mo ago
Didn't know that anyone needed to hear that, but here it is: "hot" companies often have such workdays, especially pre-IPO and with such a fast growth.
- namanyayg 6mo ago
  Yeah exactly, if you're seeing your own stock go up like the Anthropic employees are, it's gonna be hard to not work 12 hours
  - rightbyte 6mo ago
    Why? Do the extra hours give you more stocks?
    - namanyayg 6mo ago
      Some factors to consider are promotions, pip, or just being fired
      - askonomm 6mo ago
        Only "the greatest country in the world" has laws that allow firing for NOT doing overtime.
- adrian_b 6mo ago
  "Hot" companies with stupid managers often have such workdays. In the case of engineers and programmers, the amount of useful completed "work" has only a very weak correlation with the length of the workdays. Good engineers or programmers will think anyway most of the time about the problems that they must currently solve, regardless whether they are in the office or at home or in any other place, and regardless whether to an external observer they appear to be "working" or they appear to do nothing. Programmers who spend all day typing lines of code into a computer, are more likely to not be competent programmers, because otherwise they would have found ways to automate such activities that require continuous physical involvement, making impossible the allocation of enough time for thinking about the right solution. If whatever they do does not require true thinking, then that is the kind of job that can be done by AI agents.
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Sol- 6mo ago

They are all very wealthy, or are about to be at the IPO. Seems like a worthwhile tradeoff. And money aside, it is certainly one of the most exciting companies in the world to work for.

Noumenon72 6mo ago
It's a horseshoe where the worst companies make you work 12 hours and the best companies make you want to work 12 hours.
namanyayg 6mo ago
Exactly the engineers I've talked to are all so EXCITED

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H8crilA 6mo ago

Didn't know that anyone needed to hear that, but here it is: "hot" companies often have such workdays, especially pre-IPO and with such a fast growth.

namanyayg 6mo ago
Yeah exactly, if you're seeing your own stock go up like the Anthropic employees are, it's gonna be hard to not work 12 hours
- rightbyte 6mo ago
  Why? Do the extra hours give you more stocks?
  - namanyayg 6mo ago
    Some factors to consider are promotions, pip, or just being fired
    - askonomm 6mo ago
      Only "the greatest country in the world" has laws that allow firing for NOT doing overtime.
adrian_b 6mo ago
"Hot" companies with stupid managers often have such workdays. In the case of engineers and programmers, the amount of useful completed "work" has only a very weak correlation with the length of the workdays. Good engineers or programmers will think anyway most of the time about the problems that they must currently solve, regardless whether they are in the office or at home or in any other place, and regardless whether to an external observer they appear to be "working" or they appear to do nothing. Programmers who spend all day typing lines of code into a computer, are more likely to not be competent programmers, because otherwise they would have found ways to automate such activities that require continuous physical involvement, making impossible the allocation of enough time for thinking about the right solution. If whatever they do does not require true thinking, then that is the kind of job that can be done by AI agents.
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