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IETF draft-meow-mrrp-00

39 points by varun_ch 6mo ago

hootz 6mo ago
Why?!
- gonium 6mo ago
  because!
- connicpu 6mo ago
  Can't let pilots have all the fun
- frantathefranta 6mo ago
  It feels like a reply to the IPv8 draft[0] that got viral yesterday. [0]: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html
  - dark-star 6mo ago
    That IPv8 one at least made sense. This one here doesn't, and it is not even funny
    - ectospheno 6mo ago
      The ipv8 one required all traffic on a network comprising 4 billion ips to go through one server. It was far from sensical.
      - zamadatix 6mo ago
        Don't worry, it actually called for 2 Zone Servers in an active-active pair!
      - dark-star 6mo ago
        I didn't say it was practical. But it definitely made more sense than this "meow" crap.
  - cosmojg 6mo ago
    Oh wow, yeah, this is clearly a parody of that IPv8 draft. Just look at the ASCII tables! I suppose it's a commentary on how low the bar is for submitting drafts to the IETF.
DeepYogurt 6mo ago
I guess this shows how low of a bar there is for getting something in as an ietf draft. Adds context for that ipv8 post from the other day for sure
JesseTG 6mo ago
The author must be hungry.
zamadatix 6mo ago
The author has a fun website too: https://matdoes.dev/ https://matdoes.dev/ Complete with 88x31 buttons, sparkling star gifs, and a visit counter.
brianpane 6mo ago
This seems ill-advised. The protocol as documented is trivially exploitable by reflection attacks. The cat next door said one meow, and now every cat in the neighborhood is wailing in response.
- zdw 6mo ago
  Dogs have the same failure mode, except also influenced by non-domesticated canines such as coyotes and wolves, so a worse attack vector.
crankoy 6mo ago
[flagged]
teddyh 6mo ago
Disappointingly, this draft does not reference previous important and influential work in this field: <https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf>. (Also available in video format: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk>)
vondur 6mo ago
Reminds me of the chicken presentation: https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf
chrismorgan 6mo ago
https://f.matdoes.dev/notice/B5MVd4KD0Oh5Rfwaoq https://f.matdoes.dev/notice/B5MVd4KD0Oh5Rfwaoq: > i wrote an internet standard https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html (it's published on ietf.org so you know it's real and official and endorsed by the ietf) Sounds like a reaction to the IPv8 draft, pointing out that anyone can publish anything there and it means nothing.

39 points by varun_ch 6mo ago

hootz 6mo ago

Why?!

gonium 6mo ago
because!
connicpu 6mo ago
Can't let pilots have all the fun
frantathefranta 6mo ago
It feels like a reply to the IPv8 draft[0] that got viral yesterday. [0]: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html
- dark-star 6mo ago
  That IPv8 one at least made sense. This one here doesn't, and it is not even funny
  - ectospheno 6mo ago
    The ipv8 one required all traffic on a network comprising 4 billion ips to go through one server. It was far from sensical.
    - zamadatix 6mo ago
      Don't worry, it actually called for 2 Zone Servers in an active-active pair!
    - dark-star 6mo ago
      I didn't say it was practical. But it definitely made more sense than this "meow" crap.
- cosmojg 6mo ago
  Oh wow, yeah, this is clearly a parody of that IPv8 draft. Just look at the ASCII tables! I suppose it's a commentary on how low the bar is for submitting drafts to the IETF.

DeepYogurt 6mo ago

I guess this shows how low of a bar there is for getting something in as an ietf draft. Adds context for that ipv8 post from the other day for sure

JesseTG 6mo ago

The author must be hungry.

zamadatix 6mo ago

The author has a fun website too: https://matdoes.dev/ https://matdoes.dev/ Complete with 88x31 buttons, sparkling star gifs, and a visit counter.

brianpane 6mo ago

This seems ill-advised. The protocol as documented is trivially exploitable by reflection attacks. The cat next door said one meow, and now every cat in the neighborhood is wailing in response.

zdw 6mo ago
Dogs have the same failure mode, except also influenced by non-domesticated canines such as coyotes and wolves, so a worse attack vector.

crankoy 6mo ago

[flagged]

teddyh 6mo ago

Disappointingly, this draft does not reference previous important and influential work in this field: <https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf>. (Also available in video format: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk>)

vondur 6mo ago

Reminds me of the chicken presentation: https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf

chrismorgan 6mo ago

https://f.matdoes.dev/notice/B5MVd4KD0Oh5Rfwaoq https://f.matdoes.dev/notice/B5MVd4KD0Oh5Rfwaoq: > i wrote an internet standard https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html (it's published on ietf.org so you know it's real and official and endorsed by the ietf) Sounds like a reaction to the IPv8 draft, pointing out that anyone can publish anything there and it means nothing.