3 ms·

well, and this bill literally only makes you prove age to ... set up the device. how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid m

by basch 6mo ago

well, and this bill literally only makes you prove age to ... set up the device. how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode" apple's guided access is a terrible 1% solution to the problem. in one click i should be able to put my phone into some kind of locked down mode that exposes only what is allowed, starting with nothing unless whitelisted, with multiple profiles. in the same sense, all the streaming services having their own separate kids profiles, instead of the streaming device having a single kids mode that exposes only the kids mode content from each app makes kids mode useless when a kid can just change the app, or gets stick into a single provider and i have to go help them switch.

mkroman 6mo ago
> how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode" They do. Android have had multi-user and guest profiles since Android 5. The only reason I really know this is because I heard how Google completely bungled it in Android 14 on Pixel devices[1] :D [1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomware-data-storage-bug-locks-out-users-remains-unfixed/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomwa...
- ranger_danger 6mo ago
  In addition to profiles you can also 'pin' an app from the recents menu so the kid cannot exit the app, sortof like a kiosk mode. It requires bio/auth to undo the pin. To me that's faster and much closer to a safe "hand the device to a kid" mode.
- lrvick 6mo ago
  While age gate attempts are comically stupid, an adult giving a kid a device purpose built for addictive behavior should absolutely be as illegal as giving them alcohol or cigarettes. I really hope Apple and Google are not stupid enough to further enable this.
  - basch 6mo ago
    I don't consider giving a kid a phone in guided access with calculator up to be addictive or something that should be illegal. Same applies to guided access and a facetime call. I dont want them to switch apps or hang up the call, the phone gets locked down.
HumblyTossed 6mo ago
Apple is a hardware company. They want to sell more devices.

by basch 6mo ago

mkroman 6mo ago

> how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode" They do. Android have had multi-user and guest profiles since Android 5. The only reason I really know this is because I heard how Google completely bungled it in Android 14 on Pixel devices[1] :D [1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomware-data-storage-bug-locks-out-users-remains-unfixed/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomwa...

ranger_danger 6mo ago
In addition to profiles you can also 'pin' an app from the recents menu so the kid cannot exit the app, sortof like a kiosk mode. It requires bio/auth to undo the pin. To me that's faster and much closer to a safe "hand the device to a kid" mode.
lrvick 6mo ago
While age gate attempts are comically stupid, an adult giving a kid a device purpose built for addictive behavior should absolutely be as illegal as giving them alcohol or cigarettes. I really hope Apple and Google are not stupid enough to further enable this.
- basch 6mo ago
  I don't consider giving a kid a phone in guided access with calculator up to be addictive or something that should be illegal. Same applies to guided access and a facetime call. I dont want them to switch apps or hang up the call, the phone gets locked down.

HumblyTossed 6mo ago

Apple is a hardware company. They want to sell more devices.