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The next language ought to ensure memory-safe conditions across the network.

by turtleyacht 6mo ago

derleyici 6mo ago
And the answer is… Rust.
- anthk 6mo ago
  Or Algol 68, which is doing a comeback.
  - pjmlp 6mo ago
    Or even ESPOL and its evolution, NEWP, never went away, only available to Unisys customers that care about security as top deployment priority.
    - EvanAnderson 6mo ago
      I wish more people knew about the Burroughs Large Systems[0] machines. I haven't written any code for them, but I got turned-on to them by a financial Customer who ran a ClearPath Series A MCP system (and later one of the NT-based Clearpath machines with the SCAMP processor on a card) back in the late 90s, and later by a fellow contractor who did ALGOL programming for Unisys in the mid-70s and early 80s. It seems like an architecture with an uncompromising attitude toward security, and an utterly parallel universe to what the rest of the industry is (except for, perhaps, the IBM AS/400, at least in the sense of being uncompromising on design ideals). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_Large_Systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_Large_Systems
      - pjmlp 6mo ago
        Yes, IBM i and z/OS, are the other survivors.
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gostsamo 6mo ago
the article states that the language can have extensions for different domains, so it is also an option.
csrse 6mo ago
Already exists since way back: https://github.com/mozart/mozart2 https://github.com/mozart/mozart2 (for example)
- riffraff 6mo ago
  I only realized now CTM is more than 20 years old. In my mind it's still a cool new book. CTM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concepts,_Techniques,_and_Models_of_Computer_Programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concepts,_Techniques,_and_Mode...
yvdriess 6mo ago
AmbientTalk did this. I used it for a demo where I dragged a mp3 player's UI button to another machine, where pressing play would play it back on the originator's speakers. Proper actor programming in the veins of E and Erlang. https://soft.vub.ac.be/amop/ https://soft.vub.ac.be/amop/

The next language ought to ensure memory-safe conditions across the network.

derleyici 6mo ago

And the answer is… Rust.

anthk 6mo ago
Or Algol 68, which is doing a comeback.
- pjmlp 6mo ago
  Or even ESPOL and its evolution, NEWP, never went away, only available to Unisys customers that care about security as top deployment priority.
  - EvanAnderson 6mo ago
    I wish more people knew about the Burroughs Large Systems[0] machines. I haven't written any code for them, but I got turned-on to them by a financial Customer who ran a ClearPath Series A MCP system (and later one of the NT-based Clearpath machines with the SCAMP processor on a card) back in the late 90s, and later by a fellow contractor who did ALGOL programming for Unisys in the mid-70s and early 80s. It seems like an architecture with an uncompromising attitude toward security, and an utterly parallel universe to what the rest of the industry is (except for, perhaps, the IBM AS/400, at least in the sense of being uncompromising on design ideals). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_Large_Systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_Large_Systems
    - pjmlp 6mo ago
      Yes, IBM i and z/OS, are the other survivors.
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gostsamo 6mo ago

the article states that the language can have extensions for different domains, so it is also an option.

csrse 6mo ago

Already exists since way back: https://github.com/mozart/mozart2 https://github.com/mozart/mozart2 (for example)

riffraff 6mo ago
I only realized now CTM is more than 20 years old. In my mind it's still a cool new book. CTM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concepts,_Techniques,_and_Models_of_Computer_Programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concepts,_Techniques,_and_Mode...

yvdriess 6mo ago

AmbientTalk did this. I used it for a demo where I dragged a mp3 player's UI button to another machine, where pressing play would play it back on the originator's speakers. Proper actor programming in the veins of E and Erlang. https://soft.vub.ac.be/amop/ https://soft.vub.ac.be/amop/