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> BREAKFAST IS THE most important meal of the day First sentence of the article and already an error.

cultofmetatron 6mo ago
seriosuly underrated comment. I finished a 20 min bike ride and feel clear headed. Havent' consumed anything other than black coffee. Most people are so used to eating continuously and never train their bodies to be metabolically flexible. Doesn't help that the "most important meal of the day" shtick was invented by cereal companies trying to sell us crap dessert masquerading as health food.
- ssl-3 6mo ago
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- Tade0 6mo ago
  Same routine here. I can ride on that until lunch and I learned this during my (few) years in Italy, because it's normal there. Also there was a brief moment in my adult life when I had sleep for supper and it was the first time in years when I heard my stomach actually rumbling - I was so used to eating at the first sign of cravings that I forgot how it feels.
- high_na_euv 6mo ago
  Counterpoint: Ive almost never been eating breakfasts and when I went on delivery diet and started eating them then ive been feeling better tbh
  - saaaaaam 6mo ago
    What is delivery diet?
    - TeMPOraL 6mo ago
      I'm guessing those Meals in Boxes as a Service you can subscribe to, where they drop a bunch of calorically deficient, bland, starvation-level meal packs at your doorstep in the middle of the night, and you're supposed to survive on them for the next 24 hours.
      - high_na_euv 6mo ago
        I wouldnt call them starvation level, after all you select the size/calories
    - high_na_euv 6mo ago
      You get delivered e.g 5 meals day before, evening for next day Healthly food, calculated calories, good stuff in general. When you are living alone then it is really good option because when I calculated my shopping costs then switching to it wasnt more expensive and im eating way better while saving time
      - saaaaaam 6mo ago
        Right! Thank you.
jahnu 6mo ago
OK fine but it's not really helpful to us reading your comment if you also don't back up your counter claim.
- Jtarii 6mo ago
  That which can be asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence.
  - danlitt 6mo ago
    but at some point someone should bring some evidence, or the exchange is pointless.
    - pasquinelli 6mo ago
      not when the entire conversation has nothing to do with anything.
    - kwertyoowiyop 6mo ago
      Welcome to Hacker News?
  - Angostura 6mo ago
    No it can’t.
- ZiiS 6mo ago
  It is important to chalange the spread of misinformation even when you don't have time to prove the correct information. If that statement was left unchallenged it would be seen as a tacit endorsment. The amount of effort you have to invest is proving that breakfast dosn't ward off tigers is disproportionate to the benefit.
  - pasquinelli 6mo ago
    that makes sense if other people are watching the conversation, paying attention to it, considering everything that's said and using that as the basis for what they believe going forward, but that almost never happens, and certainly never happens here.
tonyedgecombe 6mo ago
There is some evidence that moving your meals to early in the day is good for you. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper. Horses for courses though. I know plenty of people who don't eat breakfast but personally I found it much easier to not eat dinner.
martingoodson 6mo ago
"Conclusions: This meta-analysis confirmed that skipping breakfast is associated with overweight/obesity, and skipping breakfast increases the risk of overweight/obesity. The results of cohort studies and cross-sectional studies are consistent. There is no significant difference in these results among different ages, gender, regions, and economic conditions." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31918985/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31918985/
- oarfish 6mo ago
  It seems rather obvious that skipping breakfast is not causally related to obesity, rather it maybe correlates with other behaviors that are.
n8cpdx 6mo ago
In the context of hotel buffet food service waste, it definitely is. And if what you’re really trying to say is that you like intermittent fasting (which can have eating windows at any part of the day even if the meme is to start eating at traditional lunch hours) the first meal, that meal which breaks your fast, is, by definition, breakfast. This could be your only meal if taking intermittent fasting to its extreme - further evidence for it being most important. The other way in which breakfast is most important, IMO, is that it sets the tone for the rest of the day. To be more specific, the first meal that gets you onto the blood sugar/insulin rollercoaster will keep you on the rollercoaster all day until you fast again - so the quality of your meals (aka not starting your day with sugar bombs) is highly important. Regardless, “important” is purely an opinion/values statement; the only error is claiming that a sincerely held opinion is an “error”. Edit: after some recent travel experiences, I found that starting my day with a high quality salad (little dressing, whole fish, variety of vegetables, small portion) was transformative in keeping my blood sugar under control, maintaining stable energy level, and promoting healthy digestion.

seriosuly underrated comment. I finished a 20 min bike ride and feel clear headed. Havent' consumed anything other than black coffee. Most people are so used to eating continuously and never train their bodies to be metabolically flexible. Doesn't help that the "most important meal of the day" shtick was invented by cereal companies trying to sell us crap dessert masquerading as health food.

ssl-3 6mo ago
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Tade0 6mo ago
Same routine here. I can ride on that until lunch and I learned this during my (few) years in Italy, because it's normal there. Also there was a brief moment in my adult life when I had sleep for supper and it was the first time in years when I heard my stomach actually rumbling - I was so used to eating at the first sign of cravings that I forgot how it feels.
high_na_euv 6mo ago
Counterpoint: Ive almost never been eating breakfasts and when I went on delivery diet and started eating them then ive been feeling better tbh
- saaaaaam 6mo ago
  What is delivery diet?
  - TeMPOraL 6mo ago
    I'm guessing those Meals in Boxes as a Service you can subscribe to, where they drop a bunch of calorically deficient, bland, starvation-level meal packs at your doorstep in the middle of the night, and you're supposed to survive on them for the next 24 hours.
    - high_na_euv 6mo ago
      I wouldnt call them starvation level, after all you select the size/calories
  - high_na_euv 6mo ago
    You get delivered e.g 5 meals day before, evening for next day Healthly food, calculated calories, good stuff in general. When you are living alone then it is really good option because when I calculated my shopping costs then switching to it wasnt more expensive and im eating way better while saving time
    - saaaaaam 6mo ago
      Right! Thank you.

jahnu 6mo ago

OK fine but it's not really helpful to us reading your comment if you also don't back up your counter claim.

Jtarii 6mo ago
That which can be asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence.
- danlitt 6mo ago
  but at some point someone should bring some evidence, or the exchange is pointless.
  - pasquinelli 6mo ago
    not when the entire conversation has nothing to do with anything.
  - kwertyoowiyop 6mo ago
    Welcome to Hacker News?
- Angostura 6mo ago
  No it can’t.
ZiiS 6mo ago
It is important to chalange the spread of misinformation even when you don't have time to prove the correct information. If that statement was left unchallenged it would be seen as a tacit endorsment. The amount of effort you have to invest is proving that breakfast dosn't ward off tigers is disproportionate to the benefit.
- pasquinelli 6mo ago
  that makes sense if other people are watching the conversation, paying attention to it, considering everything that's said and using that as the basis for what they believe going forward, but that almost never happens, and certainly never happens here.

tonyedgecombe 6mo ago

There is some evidence that moving your meals to early in the day is good for you. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper. Horses for courses though. I know plenty of people who don't eat breakfast but personally I found it much easier to not eat dinner.

martingoodson 6mo ago

"Conclusions: This meta-analysis confirmed that skipping breakfast is associated with overweight/obesity, and skipping breakfast increases the risk of overweight/obesity. The results of cohort studies and cross-sectional studies are consistent. There is no significant difference in these results among different ages, gender, regions, and economic conditions." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31918985/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31918985/

oarfish 6mo ago
It seems rather obvious that skipping breakfast is not causally related to obesity, rather it maybe correlates with other behaviors that are.

n8cpdx 6mo ago

In the context of hotel buffet food service waste, it definitely is. And if what you’re really trying to say is that you like intermittent fasting (which can have eating windows at any part of the day even if the meme is to start eating at traditional lunch hours) the first meal, that meal which breaks your fast, is, by definition, breakfast. This could be your only meal if taking intermittent fasting to its extreme - further evidence for it being most important. The other way in which breakfast is most important, IMO, is that it sets the tone for the rest of the day. To be more specific, the first meal that gets you onto the blood sugar/insulin rollercoaster will keep you on the rollercoaster all day until you fast again - so the quality of your meals (aka not starting your day with sugar bombs) is highly important. Regardless, “important” is purely an opinion/values statement; the only error is claiming that a sincerely held opinion is an “error”. Edit: after some recent travel experiences, I found that starting my day with a high quality salad (little dressing, whole fish, variety of vegetables, small portion) was transformative in keeping my blood sugar under control, maintaining stable energy level, and promoting healthy digestion.