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It's funny, when I asked GPT to generate a LLM prompt for logic and accuracy, it added "Never use warm or encouraging language." I thought that was odd, but la
by andai 7mo ago
It's funny, when I asked GPT to generate a LLM prompt for logic and accuracy, it added "Never use warm or encouraging language."
I thought that was odd, but later it made sense to me -- most of human communication is walking on eggshells around people's egos, and that's strongly encoded in the training data (and even more in the RLHF).
- stavros 7mo ago> most of human communication is walking on eggshells That's not human communication, that's Anglosphere communication. Other cultures are much more direct and are finding it very hard to work with Anglos (we come across as rude, they come across as not saying things they should be saying).
- vardalab 7mo agoWhat culture are those? Scandinavian? Those often just say nothing.
- stavros 7mo agoI'm Greek. I don't know about other Mediterranean cultures, but I assume they're similar.
- strokirk 7mo agoScandinavian are quite different between each others as well.
- jmpavlec 7mo agoThe Dutch especially. It's refreshing
- m3adow 7mo ago[dead]
- projektfu 7mo agoAfter having worked with people from former Eastern Bloc countries, I would nominate a few of them for direct communication, e.g., "I won't do that because it is a stupid idea," or, "Can we discuss this when you know what you're doing?"
- suslik 7mo agoScandinavian cultures are not uniform also. Danes can be very direct; Swedes - not so much.
- eloisant 7mo agoDepends on the culture as you said, but some of them are even less direct than English speaking countries. Japan for example.
- afro88 7mo agoAnd India. It's a common experience that engineering teams from India will say yes to everything and then do what they think is best. Rather than saying no and explaining what they want to do instead
- bawana 7mo agoI am an American born to greek parents. For ‘normal’ conversation, I have adapted two ways of interacting - the greek one is direct and has instant access to emotional reactions. The American one obfuscates emotions, as if daily interactions were a game of poker. When i let my ‘greek’ out here in the US , it initially adds life to any interaction but over time the other participants distance themselves from connection. It is as if Greeks (many Europeans?) run at a higher temperature (also using temperature as it applies to LLMs). In greece, Intent and meaning are more often conveyed by emotion and its intensity, often only loosely connected to the meaning of the words used.in daily conversation , Americans rely entirely on meaning of content subtracting almost all emotion unless threatening behavior or violence is involved. Emotion expression is used as a ‘tell’ or bait in the US. Interestingly this distinction has dissolved over the past two decades as greece has ‘westernized’ and youth in particular are indistinguishable by any metric.
- andai 7mo agoThat's very interesting. I don't really understand what you're saying though, can you give some examples?