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Other than dotCloud, what are some other PHP as a platform competitors?
by timjahn 14y ago
Other than dotCloud, what are some other PHP as a platform competitors?
- malachismith 14y agoare you looking for PHP only platforms, or platforms that support PHP along with other languages?
- timjahn 14y agoWe're PHP/MySQL now, so anything that supports PHP/MySQL (whether solely or as part of a larger offering).
- malachismith 14y agoThey you've pretty much got unlimited choices. AppFog, Heroku, you name it. Everyone supports PHP and MySQL these days.
- timjahn 14y agoI'd prefer something with the simplicity and ease of setup/maintenance as PHP Fog.
- cardmagic 14y agoAppFog is PHP Fog 2.0, it does PHP and has way more functionality
- timjahn 14y agoAppFog is also run by the same team as PHP Fog, which in my experience in the past few weeks, cares very little about customer support. I'd like to see what else is out there.
- mcrider 14y agoI really like PagodaBox.
- timjahn 14y agoHow long have you been using them? Browsing their site, this looks pretty sweet.
- fdgwhite 14y agoOrchestra.io, Heroku, PagodaBox
- benatkin 14y agodotcloud seems about as close a match as you could get, including the PaaS pricing which seems expensive to people who are comfortable setting up their own server. I have seen Heroku working for PHP but it needs a certain type of application that doesn't need to write files and uses postgres. WordPress can actually live within these requirements, with a plugin that rewrites mysql queries as postgres, but it isn't easy. There are more options if all you need is WordPress. ZippyKid and page.ly both seem to be high quality and economical.
- ridruejo 14y agoWe have plenty of PHP users on BitNami Cloud bitnami.org/cloud
- luc_perkins 14y agoThe problem with BitNami Cloud is that they are AWS only and the pricing model is highly opaque. You pay once for Bitnami and then AGAIN for AWS. According to AppFog's pricing you pay only one source, namely us and never Amazon or Rackspace or HP or anyone else, and pricing is solely RAM-based, which means that it's next to impossible to incur costs that you don't actively choose.
- ridruejo 14y agoI don't get why you claim the pricing is opaque. If anything, it is completely transparent because we do not add any markup whatsoever to the AWS charges, so in most cases it will result in a much lower monthly bill. Regarding it being AWS-specific, Bitnami Cloud Hosting is, but the rest of the BitNami offering and images is available for other clouds such as Azure and HP. We also integrate well with the rest of the AWS infrastructure: CloudWatch, CloudFormation, Beanstalk, etc.
- luc_perkins 14y agoI totally get that, and no markup above and beyond AWS pricing seems like the way to go. But the problem is that AWS pricing itself is not completely transparent. It's based on usage, which means that the bill at the end of the month can end up being an unpleasant surprise, as it has been for lots and lots of AWS users over the years. Who can know in advance what their usage figures will be? RAM-based pricing means that the bill at the end of the month literally cannot be a surprise. We have four available plans, and monthly bills map directly and seamlessly onto those plans. We run on AWS (among others) but WE pay AWS, not our customers, because we think that part of the mission of PaaS is to shield customers from the many disparate pricing models on different IaaS providers. Want to run on Rackspace via AppFog? Same price. Want to run on HP? Same price. Azure? Same price. PaaS needs to abstract hardware away completely, even monetarily. Paying IaaS providers directly is not the way to do that.
- rprasad 14y agoEngineYard's Orchestra is one, though I'm not sure how far along they are with integrating it into their standard offerings.