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I disapprove of this kind of article. These useful rubes are not powerful masterminds. Why go on a witch hunt to hold a 19 year old responsible, when meanwhile

I disapprove of this kind of article. These useful rubes are not powerful masterminds. Why go on a witch hunt to hold a 19 year old responsible, when meanwhile Mark “they trust me dumbfucks” Zuckerberg is left off the hook for his teenage improprieties?

miltonlost 6mo ago
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cdrnsf 6mo ago
Zuck should be held accountable for myriad things.
Larrikin 6mo ago
Maybe we would have been better off if people went after Zuckerberg when he was 19 too
beart 6mo ago
You are assuming these people were just following procedure. This is not accurate. There is at least one case where data was taken and intended to be improperly used at a private company. These people are more than useful rubes. They actively committed unethical (if not illegal) acts.
- krapp 6mo ago
  They were following the procedure they were ordered to follow. They were doing exactly what they were meant to be doing. And a lot of people on HN were enthusiastically supportive of what they were doing. Even the illegal stuff. Especially the illegal stuff. Odd how back then DOGE were "bold, brilliant patriots doing what was necessary to cut government waste and drain the swamp" and now they're innocent naive babes who were just in over their heads.
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dwb 6mo ago
Why not both? I really don’t think they are rubes. I wouldn’t have done anything like this at 19, and nor would any of my friends at the time.
UncleMeat 6mo ago
We can do both. I dunno, I feel like the kid who used ChatGPT to decide to cut funding to a program such that tens of thousands of people now die deserves some social criticism. People should experience shame when entering in to such a project. A kid who breaks into a car to steal a backpack gets railroaded into prison. That's orders of magnitude less harmful to society than what these guys did.
sys_64738 6mo ago
This does not waive Zuck of his crimes either. But all these DOGE perps need to serve life in prison without parole as a warning sign to any others who engage in such a brazen and unaccountable task. People want every one of these criminals to answer severely for their part in it. That includes all their financial assets being seized by the next incoming administration. I'd go further and seize all financial assets of their parents, siblings, children, et al. Those around them that allowed such criminality to be executed should suffer as well.
- krapp 6mo ago
  >But all these DOGE perps need to serve life in prison without parole as a warning sign to any others who engage in such a brazen and unaccountable task. We would need a Constitutional amendment removing the President's power of pardon first. Otherwise, from now on (also thanks to SCOTUS) any administration and anyone the administration chooses is simply above the law.
fzeroracer 6mo ago
They actively violated the law under the guidance of someone that had no right or reason to be five miles within the government sphere. We can and should arrest every single one of them and work our way up the ladder to Musk.

miltonlost 6mo ago

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cdrnsf 6mo ago

Zuck should be held accountable for myriad things.

Larrikin 6mo ago

Maybe we would have been better off if people went after Zuckerberg when he was 19 too

beart 6mo ago

You are assuming these people were just following procedure. This is not accurate. There is at least one case where data was taken and intended to be improperly used at a private company. These people are more than useful rubes. They actively committed unethical (if not illegal) acts.

krapp 6mo ago
They were following the procedure they were ordered to follow. They were doing exactly what they were meant to be doing. And a lot of people on HN were enthusiastically supportive of what they were doing. Even the illegal stuff. Especially the illegal stuff. Odd how back then DOGE were "bold, brilliant patriots doing what was necessary to cut government waste and drain the swamp" and now they're innocent naive babes who were just in over their heads.
- CamperBob2 6mo ago
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dwb 6mo ago

Why not both? I really don’t think they are rubes. I wouldn’t have done anything like this at 19, and nor would any of my friends at the time.

UncleMeat 6mo ago

We can do both. I dunno, I feel like the kid who used ChatGPT to decide to cut funding to a program such that tens of thousands of people now die deserves some social criticism. People should experience shame when entering in to such a project. A kid who breaks into a car to steal a backpack gets railroaded into prison. That's orders of magnitude less harmful to society than what these guys did.

sys_64738 6mo ago

This does not waive Zuck of his crimes either. But all these DOGE perps need to serve life in prison without parole as a warning sign to any others who engage in such a brazen and unaccountable task. People want every one of these criminals to answer severely for their part in it. That includes all their financial assets being seized by the next incoming administration. I'd go further and seize all financial assets of their parents, siblings, children, et al. Those around them that allowed such criminality to be executed should suffer as well.

krapp 6mo ago
>But all these DOGE perps need to serve life in prison without parole as a warning sign to any others who engage in such a brazen and unaccountable task. We would need a Constitutional amendment removing the President's power of pardon first. Otherwise, from now on (also thanks to SCOTUS) any administration and anyone the administration chooses is simply above the law.

fzeroracer 6mo ago

They actively violated the law under the guidance of someone that had no right or reason to be five miles within the government sphere. We can and should arrest every single one of them and work our way up the ladder to Musk.