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if you're not american you should be worried about the bit of using AI to kill people which was the other major objection by Anthropic. (not that I think the U
by riffraff 6mo ago
if you're not american you should be worried about the bit of using AI to kill people which was the other major objection by Anthropic.
(not that I think the US DoD wouldn't do that anyway, ToS or not.)
- nothinkjustai 6mo agoNot only is Anthropic perfectly happy to let the DoD use their products to kill people, but they are partners with Palantir and were apparently instrumental in the strikes against Iran by the US military. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/03/04/anthropic-ai-iran-campaign/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/03/04/anthrop... So uh, yeah, the only difference I see between OAI and Anthropic is that one is more honest about what they’re willing to use their AI for.
- pdimitar 6mo agoOK, I am worried. Now, what can I actually do?
- ArmadilloGang 6mo agoVote with your dollar. Ask others to do the same and explain why. If we all did this, it might matter. There’s not a lot else an individual can do.
- cmrdporcupine 6mo agoDario in fact said it was ok to spy and drone non-US citizens, and in fact endorsed American foreign policy generally. So, no, I'm not voting with my wallet for one American country versus the other. I'll pick the best compromise product for me, and then also boost non-American R&D where I can.
- addandsubtract 6mo agoVote with your wallet, just like Americans.
- sieabahlpark 6mo ago[dead]
- 8note 6mo agowell, if they put in a fully automated kill chain, its gonna be weak to attacks to make yourself look like a car, or a video game styled "hide under a box" the current non-automated kill chain has targeted fishermen and a girl's school. Nobody is gonna be held accountable for either. Am i worried about the killing or the AI? If i'm worried about the killing, id much rather push for US demilitarization.
- stavros 6mo agoAnthropic's issue was only that the AI isn't yet good enough to tell who's an American, so it avoids killing them. They were fine with the "killing non-Americans" bit.
- senderista 6mo agoI don't think that is true at all, could you provide a source?
- stavros 6mo agohttps://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war > But today, frontier AI systems are simply not reliable enough to power fully autonomous weapons. We will not knowingly provide a product that puts America’s warfighters and civilians at risk.
- senderista 6mo agoThat’s interesting: I recall reading that sentence but I parsed it as “America’s warfighters” AND “civilians” (i.e., civilians in general), rather than as “America’s warfighters and America’s civilians”. I think the former reading is more plausible since American civilians are not normally at physical risk from American military operations. It’s unfortunate that this sentence is worded ambiguously, though.
- stavros 6mo agoOh interesting, I didn't parse it as "civilians in general". Hm, yes, it is unfortunate that we won't know what he meant to write.