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Same. I stopped my Pro subscription yesterday after entering the week with 70% of my tokens used by Monday morning (on light, small weekend projects, things I h

Same. I stopped my Pro subscription yesterday after entering the week with 70% of my tokens used by Monday morning (on light, small weekend projects, things I had worked on in the past and barely noticed a dent in usage.) Support was... unhelpful. It's been funny watching my own attitude to Anthropic change, from being an enthusiastic Claude user to pure frustration. But even that wasn't the trigger to leave, it was the attitude Support showed. I figure, if you mess up as badly as Anthropic has, you should at least show some effort towards your customers. Instead I just got a mass of standardised replies, even after the thread replied I'd be escalated to a human. Nothing can sour you on a company more. I'm forgiving to bugs, we've all been there, but really annoyed by indifference and unhelpful form replies with corporate uselessness. So if 4.7 is here? I'd prefer they forget models and revert the harness to its January state. Even then, I've already moved to Codex as of a few days ago, and I won't be maintaining two subscriptions, it's a move. It has its own issues, it's clear, but I'm getting work done. That's more than I can say for Claude.

brenoRibeiro706 6mo ago
Same here, working with claude code has been unproductive since March; everyone on my team has complained about the decline in claude code quality, which is why we’re switching to Codex.
suzzer99 6mo ago
It seems like the big companies they're providing Mythos to are their only concern right now.
- sethhochberg 6mo ago
  Corporate software in general is often chosen based on the value returned simply being "good enough" most of the time, because the actual product being purchased is good controls for security, compliance, etc. A corporate purchaser is buying hundreds to thousands of Claude seats and doesn't care very much about percieved fluctuations in the model performance from release to release, they're invested in ties into their SSO and SIEM and every other internal system and have trained their employees and there's substantial cost to switching even in a rapidly moving industry. Consumer end-users are much less loyal, by comparison.
spyckie2 6mo ago
> It's been funny watching my own attitude to Anthropic change, from being an enthusiastic Claude user to pure frustration. You were enthusiastic because it was a great product at an unsustainable price. Its clear that Claude is now harnessing their model because giving access to their full model is too expensive for the $20/m that consumers have settled on as the price point they want to pay. I wrote a more in depth analysis here, there's probably too much to meaningfully summarize in a comment: https://sustainableviews.substack.com/p/the-era-of-models-is-over-we-are https://sustainableviews.substack.com/p/the-era-of-models-is...
- joefourier 6mo ago
  I used the $60/mo subscription and I bet most developers get access to AI agents via their company, and there was no difference. They should have reduced the rate limits, or offered a new model, anything except silently reduce the quality of their flagship product to reduce cost. The cost of switching is too low for them to be able to get away with the standard enshittification playbook. It takes all of 5 minutes to get a Codex subscription and it works almost exactly the same, down to using the same commands for most actions.
  - brightball 6mo ago
    Thank goodness for capitalism for providing multiple competitors to multibillion dollar companies
- adrian_b 6mo ago
  I agree with what you what you have written, which is why I would never pay a subscription to an external AI provider. I prefer to run inference on my own HW, with a harness that I control, so I can choose myself what compromise between speed and the quality of the results is appropriate for my needs. When I have complete control, resulting in predictable performance, I can work more efficiently, even with slower HW and with somewhat inferior models, than when I am at the mercy of an external provider.
  - brightball 6mo ago
boppo1 6mo ago
I havent been using my claude sub lately but I liked 4.6 three weeks ago. Did something change?
- GenerocUsername 6mo ago
  2 weeks ago the rolling session usage plummeted to borderline unusable. I'd say I get a weekly output equivalent to 2 session windows before change.
  - fooster 6mo ago
    I didn't experience that at all. I know there are lots of rumblings around here about that, but I'm posting this to show this wasn't a universal experience.
  - conception 6mo ago
    https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/ https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/ Seems like there is evidence for that.
- UltraSane 6mo ago
  Even just in chats with Opus 4.6 I noticed hitting limits so much faster.
dakolli 6mo ago
Its funny watching llm users act like gamblers. Every other week swearing by one model and cursing another, like a gambler who thinks a certain slot machine, or table is cold this week. These llm companies are literally building slot machine mechanics into their ui interfaces too, I don't think this phenomenon is a coincidence. Stop using these dopamine brain poisoning machines, think for yourself, don't pay a billionaire for their thinking machine.
- Majromax 6mo ago
  Don't confuse the many voices of a crowd with a single person's fickle view. If you can track an individual person or organization who changes their mind 'every other week' then more power to you, but unless you're performing that longitudinal study you are simply seeing differential levels of enthusiasm.
  - dakolli 6mo ago
    I get what you mean but they're all over twitter, its not random levels of enthusiasm, follow a few heavy llm users who tweet a lot and you'll see what I mean.
- hk__2 6mo ago
  > Stop using these dopamine brain poisoning machines, think for yourself, don't pay a billionaire for their thinking machine. Yeah, and also stop using these things they call "computers", think for yourself, write your texts by hand, send letters to people. /s
  - qotgalaxy 6mo ago
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  - dakolli 6mo ago
    When did I say to stop using computers? You don't prefer to think for yourself? You're cooked.
HauntingPin 6mo ago
I've given up on Claude after seeing the response quality degrade so much over the past two weeks, and now this? I've unsubscribed. I don't know why people are still giving this company money.
- deleted 6mo ago
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brenoRibeiro706 6mo ago

Same here, working with claude code has been unproductive since March; everyone on my team has complained about the decline in claude code quality, which is why we’re switching to Codex.

suzzer99 6mo ago

It seems like the big companies they're providing Mythos to are their only concern right now.

sethhochberg 6mo ago
Corporate software in general is often chosen based on the value returned simply being "good enough" most of the time, because the actual product being purchased is good controls for security, compliance, etc. A corporate purchaser is buying hundreds to thousands of Claude seats and doesn't care very much about percieved fluctuations in the model performance from release to release, they're invested in ties into their SSO and SIEM and every other internal system and have trained their employees and there's substantial cost to switching even in a rapidly moving industry. Consumer end-users are much less loyal, by comparison.

spyckie2 6mo ago

> It's been funny watching my own attitude to Anthropic change, from being an enthusiastic Claude user to pure frustration. You were enthusiastic because it was a great product at an unsustainable price. Its clear that Claude is now harnessing their model because giving access to their full model is too expensive for the $20/m that consumers have settled on as the price point they want to pay. I wrote a more in depth analysis here, there's probably too much to meaningfully summarize in a comment: https://sustainableviews.substack.com/p/the-era-of-models-is-over-we-are https://sustainableviews.substack.com/p/the-era-of-models-is...

joefourier 6mo ago
I used the $60/mo subscription and I bet most developers get access to AI agents via their company, and there was no difference. They should have reduced the rate limits, or offered a new model, anything except silently reduce the quality of their flagship product to reduce cost. The cost of switching is too low for them to be able to get away with the standard enshittification playbook. It takes all of 5 minutes to get a Codex subscription and it works almost exactly the same, down to using the same commands for most actions.
- brightball 6mo ago
  Thank goodness for capitalism for providing multiple competitors to multibillion dollar companies
adrian_b 6mo ago
I agree with what you what you have written, which is why I would never pay a subscription to an external AI provider. I prefer to run inference on my own HW, with a harness that I control, so I can choose myself what compromise between speed and the quality of the results is appropriate for my needs. When I have complete control, resulting in predictable performance, I can work more efficiently, even with slower HW and with somewhat inferior models, than when I am at the mercy of an external provider.
- brightball 6mo ago

boppo1 6mo ago

I havent been using my claude sub lately but I liked 4.6 three weeks ago. Did something change?

GenerocUsername 6mo ago
2 weeks ago the rolling session usage plummeted to borderline unusable. I'd say I get a weekly output equivalent to 2 session windows before change.
- fooster 6mo ago
  I didn't experience that at all. I know there are lots of rumblings around here about that, but I'm posting this to show this wasn't a universal experience.
- conception 6mo ago
  https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/ https://marginlab.ai/trackers/claude-code/ Seems like there is evidence for that.
UltraSane 6mo ago
Even just in chats with Opus 4.6 I noticed hitting limits so much faster.

dakolli 6mo ago

Its funny watching llm users act like gamblers. Every other week swearing by one model and cursing another, like a gambler who thinks a certain slot machine, or table is cold this week. These llm companies are literally building slot machine mechanics into their ui interfaces too, I don't think this phenomenon is a coincidence. Stop using these dopamine brain poisoning machines, think for yourself, don't pay a billionaire for their thinking machine.

Majromax 6mo ago
Don't confuse the many voices of a crowd with a single person's fickle view. If you can track an individual person or organization who changes their mind 'every other week' then more power to you, but unless you're performing that longitudinal study you are simply seeing differential levels of enthusiasm.
- dakolli 6mo ago
  I get what you mean but they're all over twitter, its not random levels of enthusiasm, follow a few heavy llm users who tweet a lot and you'll see what I mean.
hk__2 6mo ago
> Stop using these dopamine brain poisoning machines, think for yourself, don't pay a billionaire for their thinking machine. Yeah, and also stop using these things they call "computers", think for yourself, write your texts by hand, send letters to people. /s
- qotgalaxy 6mo ago
  [dead]
- dakolli 6mo ago
  When did I say to stop using computers? You don't prefer to think for yourself? You're cooked.

HauntingPin 6mo ago

I've given up on Claude after seeing the response quality degrade so much over the past two weeks, and now this? I've unsubscribed. I don't know why people are still giving this company money.

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